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Those new designs don't look like you speant a lot of time on them.
To improve them they need to be a lot more detailed. The eyes look like dots not pokemon eyes.
(05-07-2011, 01:18 PM)Paleoking Wrote: [ -> ]Those new designs don't look like you speant a lot of time on them.
To improve them they need to be a lot more detailed. The eyes look like dots not pokemon eyes.

Are you talking to me or the other guy?

If you're talking to me, A) You have no clue how many times I had to redo the arms on the second one, and B) those are just some basic designs that we can build off of. The eyes on the second design are just placeholders.

The first design (The form with a heart) is supposed to have a very sleek, simplistic design. The eyes are covered by a visor (Though that could be changed), the circle thing is the "heart", and is supposed to be some sort of red light, and the lines are supposed to be a light blue.

The second form is supposed to have more mechanical looking limbs its torso is shaped like a human heart, with the main part of it being an empty box, and its head might look a bit rusted or just more mechanical.

Now, if you want, we could give it more Pokémon-like eyes. These are just the best eyes that I could draw.
I'm going to have to agree with Paleoking here KP.

Those are very VERY basic sketches, with little, and basically no detail. I know they are basic designs, but you basically drew two human bodies. With a visor.

It can be built on, but don't get touchy when he says there is no detail, because, well, there isnt.
here is my idea for the fire starters final: I used the ideas of....forgot their name (sorry), the image with all three, and made two changes

[Image: FireRamFinal.png]

first change, what Koopaul said some time ago, they felt that making the fire ram and the desman switch body types or positions in the final (I believe it was the final), so now it will be on all fours, the other idea I had was instead of a normal, red mane, why not make it actual fire, since all fire starters have some sort of fire or fire accessory that looks like fire on their body.

what do you guys think?

Now about the two legendaries, is there any other types of mythical creatures or folkloar that will be based on the region (some people, forgot who), want to make a game out of the tSR pokedex when we are done on the tSR, and they are basing the region off of Greece, so is there anything that will match what they have going, (if acceptable that they can use the pokedex), could work?

We were considering legendaries based on Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon. Poseidon could be a centaur from Atlantis or something, Hades was gonna be a demon from hell, and I dunno what Zues was gonna be, Matt said he was gonna have the Egyptian god Pokemon Rasoris, and/or Neshda, a Greek god, and another ancient god as the trio (maybe an Atlantic god, a centaur or trident wielding humanoid fish-like creature as I suggested), the three different gods together (which sounds real cool but I can't understand how that'd make sense).
@MutantYoshi: I think that concept art is too similar to Entei. Both have metal bracelets, both have a smokelike back, a crest on its forehead, both on all fours, same type, etc. Though, I think that the idea itself may just be a little too close to Entei.

@Jetters: If the hades, poseidon, zeus idea were to be accepted, it would make sense that zeus would be a part of some sort of heaven.

But I'm really digging what Koopaul has been pitching here, the heartless legendaries and then the emotion trio.

Though, the legendaries should probably be talked about almost last in this thread, as they'll probably be the most difficult to come up with concept art for and sprites.
I was thinking Zeus could be mixed with Ra as they are both most important God s in ancient greek and egyptian beliefs
(05-08-2011, 02:31 PM)Paleoking Wrote: [ -> ]I was thinking Zeus could be mixed with Ra as they are both most important God s in ancient greek and egyptian beliefs

I don't think it's a good idea to mix two gods from different mythology, but if you were to, it would make a lot more sense to mesh ra and helios together.
I forget who suggested it, but the Zeus/Poseidon/Hades being based off of horses was a good idea to me. Zeus would have been a white pegasus, Poseidon was to be a hippocamp (a mythological horse/fish hybrid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocamp), and Hades would be some sort of skeletal horse (possibly a unicorn to have all three not be just plain horses).
If you were to combine two gods together, they should be Thor and Zues/Jupiter. Reason why is because they both have "thunder" bolts.

About the fire ram, I based it off of the first post in the finished but needs complete concept, I took everything from it, and added a thing or two, but I can try to see if I can find anything else. But I do think it was supposed to be based on a Viking...
(05-08-2011, 03:03 PM)Wes Wrote: [ -> ]I forget who suggested it, but the Zeus/Poseidon/Hades being based off of horses was a good idea to me. Zeus would have been a white pegasus, Poseidon was to be a hippocamp (a mythological horse/fish hybrid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocamp), and Hades would be some sort of skeletal horse (possibly a unicorn to have all three not be just plain horses).

Ike told me of a conversation that him and Paleoking had at school and he said he wanted Zeus, Poseidon and Hades to be horses. Maybe Poseidon can be a centaur, like an Atlantic god. I like the other two ideas. But I dunno.
I like the fire starter final form, but it looks more like a dog than a ram. The way his pose looks like he's about to pounce, the way the forelegs are drawn (rams' legs don't bend that way, a reference should have been used here unless it was intentional), and his face in general (especially the nose)
(05-08-2011, 03:10 PM)Mighty Jetters Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-08-2011, 03:03 PM)Wes Wrote: [ -> ]I forget who suggested it, but the Zeus/Poseidon/Hades being based off of horses was a good idea to me. Zeus would have been a white pegasus, Poseidon was to be a hippocamp (a mythological horse/fish hybrid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocamp), and Hades would be some sort of skeletal horse (possibly a unicorn to have all three not be just plain horses).

Ike told me of a conversation that him and Paleoking had at school and he said he wanted Zeus, Poseidon and Hades to be horses. Maybe Poseidon can be a centaur, like an Atlantic god. I like the other two ideas. But I dunno.
I don't think a centaur would work for the sole fact that centaurs are half human. We don't want it to have a human head, body, and arms on one but have the others just be plain old horse bodies.

I think if Poseidon was a Capricorn (a sea-goat), then we could have Zeus be a large unicorn Pegasus and Hades be some other physically-similar hoofed animal. That would make them a little more different while still being a good trio.
Wait what? We're doing gods again?
I'm still for the science/magic legendaries from the past with the emotion trio. It would make a lot of sense with the scenario that you wrote up, koopaul (which was exceedingly creative, good job).
As far as I can tell, we're just throwing ideas around now