Annoyingly bad games

[Kosheh]

* Kosheh sticks finger in eye, removes eye booger

sorry if I'm derailing here, but I hope you don't mind me interjecting. Also me being the one who technically "started this fight", let me be the one to end it, I guess.

You think this is going to be an internet fight? Looks like you haven't been into an actual internet flamewar then my little friendu

I don't care about changing your mind nor I want you to enjoy Mario. I don't even play a lot of Mario to begin with, but once you press "Post Reply" you abide to being refuted if needed, and simply put, being refuted is not being attacked by "Mario" "Fans" "Who" "Hate" "Sonic" "And" "Final" "Fantasy" "Seven"

If you think that a simple exchange of points of view is an imminent fight then I think you should like go outside and chill a little. Not even being ironic right now, in case I'm sounding condescending

Communicating by text is kinda shit when coming to nuances but believe me, no one's trying to one-up you in this discussion, we just want to tell you that just because you don't enjoy Game A, it doesn't mean it's Game A's flaw.

Personally, I'm trying to be reasonable. I'm mostly just expecting a fight because of myself. ...To be honest, I'm usually not this patient when my opinions are challenged. Maybe I'm improving as a person, I guess.

But when a person doesn't enjoy "Game A," it's because "Game A" has a flaw. And IMO, Mario's flaw is its core gameplay, which you guys like, and that's fine. However, you are also going as far as to treating an opinion as a fact. If you think Mario has super-tight controls, good for you. I personally don't think it does, and defending it and creating elaborate sentences as to how the flaws I find aren't real flaws won't make me think differently. This discussion is just going to go nowhere as long as you continue to treat an opinion as a fact.

When you post a "controversial" opinion and someone doesn't get it, saying "Wow that sucks I don't like your opinion" is kind of a terrible way to retort, isn't it. You posted a relatively unpopular opinion, and I, being one who thinks Mario games have pretty tight controls all-considering, thought it was unusual to hear someone say "These controls are clunky". I figured I'd ask "WHY are they clunky," as in my experience, they're not clunky, and the other posters in the thread also agree. I've found Sonic games to be harder to control but that makes sense (given the physics) but hearing that a Mario game - a game that's slower-paced than Sonic, sure, and a series I've grown up with and didn't ever have an issue with the controls, whereas other platformers like Sonic, Crash or Spyro took a little getting used to - is somewhat jarring, as most of us probably use Mario for a yardstick for judging platformers as opposed to Sonic or Spyro.
I was curious about your (admittedly atypical) opinion so I figured I'd ask. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This type of conversation has a fancy name on the Internet - it's called "discourse". It's a fancy word for "conversation" yea but don't worry it's fancy

Like this is exactly why the topic exists, and it's serving its purpose.

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Oh, actually this reminds me, I gotta actually contribute with my own unpopular opinion.

I don't like Klonoa games. They've always been extremely jarring for me and playing through the original for the first time I wasn't really sure who the intended audience is. I get he's kinda an alternative to Sonic (and to an extent, kind of the original "Needlemouse" idea Naka had where the protag is a rabbit who picks things up with his ears, though I think Klonoa just uses his arms)
I'll admit that the gameplay is actually pretty solid (the GBA ones are OK, and I think I've attempted to make decent progress in them) but the wordbuilding within them are just completely, utterly childish and terrible. I'm sure the story behind Klonoa is probably dark and brooding but it's hard to get past that when the music in the first two stages is so obnoxiously carnival-ish that it sets a really lousy tone that just doesn't jive with me. Also Huepo's voice (when it is voiced) makes me just want to McFucking Kill Myself) Compared to Mario, THESE games, while they handle incredibly solidly, move WAY too slow for me.

and i swear to fuck if i hear that rabbit shout "ANYA" when he falls down a pit One More God Damn Time