(06-11-2011, 10:29 AM)DavidCaruso Wrote: [ -> ]The problem with this is that I usually want to play the newest Luigi's Mansion or Mega Man Legends or Paper Mario on a huge HDTV and become completely immersed in it, not a small 3-inch LCD screen while I'm lying in bed or riding a metro train.
'S just you, man. My gaming prime time is in bed or on the move; and come to think of it, the majority of my favourite games are handehld. I'm entirely ok with mainseries titles being on 3DS. Means I'll actually play 'em.
Wii U is basically screaming for a Pokemon Snap sequel.
(06-12-2011, 04:06 AM)GrooveMan.exe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2011, 10:29 AM)DavidCaruso Wrote: [ -> ]The problem with this is that I usually want to play the newest Luigi's Mansion or Mega Man Legends or Paper Mario on a huge HDTV and become completely immersed in it, not a small 3-inch LCD screen while I'm lying in bed or riding a metro train.
'S just you, man. My gaming prime time is in bed or on the move; and come to think of it, the majority of my favourite games are handehld. I'm entirely ok with mainseries titles being on 3DS. Means I'll actually play 'em.
Well like I said the best compromise here would be to release a main version on console and a slightly graphically degraded version on portable (since I doubt a lot of processing power would be going to stuff other than graphics for most games unless they're large-scale RTSes or something, and even then the best games in that genre have usually been on PC except for Pikmin). Then everyone would theoretically be happy, and game companies would probably get more money too.
I'm perfectly okay with main series titles being on portables, I just don't like them being exclusive to portables. You just get sucked into games so much more when they're on a huge screen and take up almost your entire field of vision. There are a lot of handheld games I really like but I'd love to see a console version of most of them, if only for high definition visuals. Right now I have enough free time that I'm able to sink hours into playing games on HDTV screens or PC monitors, though, so I can understand why this might not be practical for people with busier schedules. (Also generally I've found that many portable games are best played on PC monitors too through emulation, and my PC is in my bedroom. Though I'm not immune to sometimes wanting to play games in bed, and I did that with Pokemon B/W, but I did say "usually" =P)
As soon as cloud computing becomes refined enough the console/handheld dichotomy will become unnecessary anyway, since you'd just stream the same images to both screens. I was hoping the WiiU would have some advances to make in this area but unfortunately it turned out the streaming thing was only local. It'll probably happen within a decade or so anyway I guess.
Having main series titles come out for both portable and console is just stupid. They both would end up being horribly watered down, not taking advantage of any of the platforms unique capabilities, or on of them would just be horribly screwed over. As far as I see it anybody who says otherwise is just picky and butthurt or cheap and butthurt.
This and I completely agree with Grooveman - I'm much more likely to actually play a handheld game.
(06-12-2011, 02:32 PM)Butch Wrote: [ -> ]Having main series titles come out for both portable and console is just stupid. They both would end up being horribly watered down, not taking advantage of any of the platforms unique capabilities, or on of them would just be horribly screwed over. As far as I see it anybody who says otherwise is just picky and butthurt or cheap and butthurt.
This and I completely agree with Grooveman - I'm much more likely to actually play a handheld game.
The 3DS is apparently as powerful as the Wii/GC. Nothing needs to be "watered down" except graphics, and that won't even be too noticeable thanks to smaller screen size. Most unique capabilities, if you're talking about things like the Wii's motion controls or the 3DS's 3D or the WiiU's all-in-one microphone/camera/gyroscope/touchscreen controller, are basically gimmicks, and I can think of very few good games released across the Wii's entire lifespan that took advantage of motion control and wouldn't have been better without doing so. (Actually the Trauma Center games and Kororinpa are the only ones that come to mind right now.) Likewise many of the best DS games actually didn't use the touchscreen capabilities much at all (though there were exceptions of course, since a touchscreen is much more useful and precise than motion controls.) I like your assertion that I'm picky and butthurt because I want to play games in the highest quality and setting possible though, or that I'm somehow cheap because I'd be willing to pay
more money for a portable game now in glorious HD with everything redrawn?
The WiiU is literally a large-scale 3DS in design by the way. It has all of its "unique capabilities" except the 3D, but you're not going to see many 3DS games that actually work in 3D as an integral part of the game mechanics anyway, since it can be turned off at any time and make the game unplayable if it relies too much on the effect.
(06-11-2011, 04:07 PM)Zero Kirby Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2011, 03:49 PM)Vipershark Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2011, 03:17 PM)Zero Kirby Wrote: [ -> ]Also I'd be surprised if there were a 3DS Lite considering 3DS is already about the size of a DS Lite anyway.
According to nintendo, they aren't even /thinking/ about a hardware revision to the 3DS for at least two years. They used all their space saving tricks getting it as small as it currently is.
Either buy it now, or...
wait two years, I guess.
By the end of two years it'll have probably price-dropped about $50-$100, as well.
About the only hardware revision I'd be interested in is cameras that aren't shit, anyway. Which doesn't really justify a new purchase.
You would be EXTREMELY lucky if the price gets dropped to even 200. It will take probably 5 years before they are to there even. It took 5 years for the dslite to drop from 130 to 100.
Quote:I like your assertion that I'm picky and butthurt because I want to play games in the highest quality and setting possible though
wanting what you consider to be better than what is actually available
Quote:or that I'm somehow cheap because I'd be willing to pay more money for a portable game now in glorious HD with everything redrawn?
not wanting to shell out the money for the hand held console that the game has actually come out on
All it sounds like you are saying to me is "I want nintendo to perfectly do everything i personally want it to do for no other reason than i personally think they should"
Games come out for the platform they come out on. If they were just going to have all the same games come out for the both systems they might as well completely merge their console and handheld into one multipurpose console - which they have not done yet. And for every person going "they should release them on both" there would be at least another person going "wow they are just releasing the same game twice for more money grubbing"
Until they release a portable console that has the capability to be plugged into the tv what you are asking just doesn't make sense.
(06-12-2011, 06:39 PM)Butch Wrote: [ -> ]Until they release a portable console that has the capability to be plugged into the tv what you are asking just doesn't make sense.
This is already a thing it's called PSP.
(06-12-2011, 06:52 PM)Omegajak Wrote: [ -> ] (06-12-2011, 06:39 PM)Butch Wrote: [ -> ]Until they release a portable console that has the capability to be plugged into the tv what you are asking just doesn't make sense.
This is already a thing it's called PSP.
I own one with Mega Man Powered Up! and Sonic Rivals 2.
(06-12-2011, 06:52 PM)Omegajak Wrote: [ -> ] (06-12-2011, 06:39 PM)Butch Wrote: [ -> ]Until they release a portable console that has the capability to be plugged into the tv what you are asking just doesn't make sense.
This is already a thing it's called PSP.
tried it, didn't like it.
You can't play games from your PSP on the TV without homebrew, and lets be honest that's kind of a rip off if you think about it.
You can at least display the PSP screen on your TV while you play it. I've done it several times and it's pretty cool.
(06-12-2011, 06:00 PM)Key Wrote: [ -> ]You would be EXTREMELY lucky if the price gets dropped to even 200. It will take probably 5 years before they are to there even. It took 5 years for the dslite to drop from 130 to 100.
The DS Lite also used to be $250. Also, it's only been around for five years, so I'm thinking you've either got your numbers horribly wrong or you're from the future.
EDIT: Nevermind. It was $130. I thought it used to be $250. Whoops.
But let's face it, Nintendo could probably afford to price drop the 3DS $50 right now. It's likely almost or just as overpriced as the Wii was - nothing on the 3DS is groundbreakingly new technology.
Also, how long did it take for the GameCube or Wii to price-drop... considering they're $250 at launch?
(06-12-2011, 07:08 PM)Mighty Jetters Wrote: [ -> ] (06-12-2011, 06:52 PM)Omegajak Wrote: [ -> ] (06-12-2011, 06:39 PM)Butch Wrote: [ -> ]Until they release a portable console that has the capability to be plugged into the tv what you are asking just doesn't make sense.
This is already a thing it's called PSP.
I own one with Mega Man Powered Up! and Sonic Rivals 2.
Good job on Mega Man, but Rivals 2, really?
IT'S A GREAT GAME (I completed it 100% too). Actually I didn't even ask for it it was just gotten for me with my PSP.
Anyway I think the Wii U will sell even more than the Wii.
(06-12-2011, 08:05 PM)Zero Kirby Wrote: [ -> ] (06-12-2011, 06:00 PM)Key Wrote: [ -> ]You would be EXTREMELY lucky if the price gets dropped to even 200. It will take probably 5 years before they are to there even. It took 5 years for the dslite to drop from 130 to 100.
The DS Lite also used to be $250. Also, it's only been around for five years, so I'm thinking you've either got your numbers horribly wrong or you're from the future.
EDIT: Nevermind. It was $130. I thought it used to be $250. Whoops.
But let's face it, Nintendo could probably afford to price drop the 3DS $50 right now. It's likely almost or just as overpriced as the Wii was - nothing on the 3DS is groundbreakingly new technology.
Also, how long did it take for the GameCube or Wii to price-drop... considering they're $250 at launch?
Took awhile if I recall, it's only been like 200$ for like 5 months i think.
Also Gamecube was like 100$ at launch though, that or wal-mart was making some cuts.