Character Tweaks [revamped first post!]

[Ton]

Revamped as of 12/1/2009 by Tyvon. Tweaks are to be discussed as a group and removed/added accordingly.

Mario

FLUDD's knockback needs to be MUCH stronger, the FLUDD needs to be "aimable" and it should be able to put out fire/nullify fire projectiles. Or something of that level.

I doubt this would work, but you know how FLUDD stays charged? What if that altered marios B moves for one use?

For example, if you charge it, then hit ^B, it becomes the rocket nozzle. I don't know, just a thought.

Yeah, the down B is the normal nozzle, press B and that would be the hover, the side B would be the turbo nozzle, and the up B is the Rocket, or maybe every now and then, the Up B nozzle would change, to either the Rocket, or the hover...

You can change th "mode" of the FLUDD via taunt. There is the normal mode (like in Brawl) and some "hovering mode" (which can be used for recovery).

If we go with the FLUDD alternate B moves thing, I think it should be this.

UpB - Hover
B - Spray
Foward B - Turbo
Down B - Rocket (He could blast up and then do that super ground pound from SMS that was used in the final fight with Bowser)

(We need to pick one.)

Luigi
I'd like to give him a new intro. Maybe something SMB2 related, like coming out of a Sub-Con door.

I think his FS should be more related to Luigi's Mansion. Maybe black and white instead of green, some creepy music, and some Boo Hoos flying around.

Luigi's Down B should be changed IMO. Maybe an evasive attack, such as the Tannooki Statue from SMB3?

All of Luigi's move should have a different special altered effect. Fireball can randomly thunderball, headbutt thing randomly explodes, Super Jump Punch has the exploding when close effect, and the tornado... how about it can randomly generate a small tornado on it that can suck up nearby objects? I dunno.

Peach
Should have Parry instead of a generic parasol.

Peach could have attacks based on her "emotions" from SPP. There's no need to change how attacks work, maybe just how they look.
Like for instance, when Peach floats, we could use an animation based on when Peach is in the joyful state that she floats arounds laughing. And have two A-smash attack based on her raging and crying states. Also, her B attack (that I never really understood what the hell was that) could be a counter with Perry. I remember Perry having an ability to grab an enemy or something like that, which could be a grab.

Ganondorf
People want to change his moveset, but I think it should stay the same for the most part.

Toon Link
Whole new moveset based on his own games.
Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
Example 4

Mewtwo

Smash B-Psywave
Fires off a medium-range wave that deals small knockback and collective damage. Press repeatedly to keep waving.
Down B- Disable
Fires off a small-range eyeblast that cancels the enemy's action. The higher the damage, the longer the effect lasts. If Mewtwo is directly attacked when using Disable, the enemy will receive a strong stun effect.

Fox/Falco
Illusion/Phantasm should have ledge brakes.

Falco Only
Controllable Arwing FS, as suggested by Tyvon

Wolf
Wolfen/Clusterbomb FS, as suggested by Tyvon

Ness/Lucas
Should they both still have Starstorm?

Ness Only
Buff PK Thunder.

I also say don't weaken Ness's bat like they do in the series.
I say strengthen it!

I also posted something a while back that I think we should change about Ness. The slingshot is the only weapon type that isn't represented in Smash, so I say that his up smash be changed to slingshot.

Roy
Changed or new moveset.

Snake
Entire fanboy rant can be found here.

Pit
Needs to be rebalanced.

Yoshi

-B Tongue comes out faster. The move itself already has limited effect, you might as well make it fast.
-B Up can be held for better aim.
-B Side works like Wario's Bike, Yoshi can leap out of his egg as a third jump. Much like Wario can jump off his bike. Yoshi Egg Roll will also have more aerial distance. Good recovery.

Tongue is already fast enough; instead, it should be a bit longer, but retain its current speed.

Give Yoshi a Tether. he's been asking for one since Melee =o

Gooey/Yoshi

What if we have Gooey with the shorter but faster tongue and Yoshi with a longer but slower one?

Jigglypuff

I think Jigglypuff's Down-B (Rest) should have a bit more range (like directly in the back and front of it as opposed to 'inside' Jigglypuff) and a bit less knockback and damage, but keep the flower. Or maybe change the move into something else (Here's some other moves: Takedown, Double-Edge, Gyro Ball, Wake-Up Slap, Hyper Voice.....Defense Curl?).

I also think Jigglypuff's Up-B (Sing) should be more effective (opponents stay sleep a bit longer, so that Jiggy can do whatever, since opponents can't fall asleep in the air...). I also think Sing should make it lightly levitate upwards, or at the very least fall at a slow speed. Or you could change Sing to Down-B IF you plan on exchanging Rest with another attack.

And sorry for being somewhat picky about this one, but I think the Pokemon's moveset should be moves from the Pokemon games, or change the names of the moves. Since I've been talking about Jigglypuff, I'll use it as an example. Since "Puff Up" is not an actual PKMN attack, maybe Jiggy's FS could be something different, like a Strength-looking move or something. However, that may seem a litte drastic; you could just call the move something else (It does kinda look like it could be a few other moves: Hyper Voice, Frustration, Secret Power, Strength, Natural Gift, Last Resort).

Sonic

Should there be more of a difference between Sonic's Side-B and Down-B?

I think Sonics intro should be him being flown in by Tails on the Tornado.

Ike

Allow Ike to Aether out of a Quick Draw. Gives him more recovery.

Kirby

Give Kirby some punishment for spamming Stone. After the third consecutive stone, give Kirby like, 5%. Same with Pikachu and his Thunder.

Donkey Kong

Give DK the ability to Ground his opponents using his Down B. Like, a 10% chance or something.

Pokemon Trainer

also, a Seismic Toss grab attack for Charizard, he seriously needs one

Miscellaneous

You know that Yoshi has his Egg for a shield, then why not have all the turtle/turtle beasts use their shells as a shield. I think it will make it a little more unique and different.