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Pokémon X/Y/OR/AS/Sun/Moon Model Ripping Project
Hi, sorry for my question, can we do model rigging in Pokemon? Thanks in advance for your answers.
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Hi all,

I want to use the Pokémon models in Unity. However I had some issues with them and I believe figuring out how to solve them is simply out of my reach. I signed up on this forum with the sole purpose of asking for help with this.

Besides these issues, I'd also like to share the way I process the models in order to use them in Unity to receive recomendations on how I can optimize it, because I feel it's highly inefficient. My fan-project is going to need a huge lot of Pokemon models and this process is just too slow to do with every single Pokemon.

This is how I proceed:
Now I wish the only problem with that procedure was that it takes time to work; but the problem is, it straight-up doesn't work. So far I have done this with three Pokemon: Haxorus, Garchomp and Aggron. I only got Haxorus working. I'll detail the issues in a spoiler:
Note that Haxorus, Garchomp and Aggron were merely samples, my point is not that I want to fix specifically the issues with their models but rather I'd like to be able to prevent (or at least predict) these issues altoghether. What I'd like to achieve is to rest assured that any Pokemon I want to use will work properly in Unity and, if possible, Blender. A collection of already processed, ready to use .blend/.fbx files of all 802 (804?) Pokemon would be inmensely appreciated. But as I haven't found that, I need to get this working.

Also consider that I haven't read all the 130+ pages in this thread, I have only read a few of these pages which popped up when I was googling for a solution to these problems. If any of this has been addressed previously, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.
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This might be a really stupid question but is there any way to convert animations to MMD`s vmd format? I'd love to get some pokemon animations in there
Espurrs are cool O - O
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(09-14-2017, 10:55 PM)Supurreme Wrote: This might be a really stupid question but is there any way to convert animations to MMD`s vmd format? I'd love to get some pokemon animations in there

While I do agree with this, it's probably more complicated than you might anticipate. I've been working with MMD recently, and to make sure the animations work with standard MMD models, you'd have to make sure they correspond to the standard MMD bones, and make sure you're using Pokemon models with said bones. If you're dealing with Pokemon specifically rather than human characters, it's probably going to be a lot more complicated.

I'm not sure how viable it is to convert the animations directly to a model without standard MMD bones - it wouldn't be cross-compatible, but it might still be useful if it's possible.

EDIT: I found a download for some converted Z-Move poses from the game to models that lack the standard MMD bones, with a comment implying converting these animations isn't too difficult. Maybe this will help?
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(09-14-2017, 05:08 AM)KPlaceholder Wrote: Hi all,

I want to use the Pokémon models in Unity. However I had some issues with them and I believe figuring out how to solve them is simply out of my reach. I signed up on this forum with the sole purpose of asking for help with this.

Besides these issues, I'd also like to share the way I process the models in order to use them in Unity to receive recomendations on how I can optimize it, because I feel it's highly inefficient. My fan-project is going to need a huge lot of Pokemon models and this process is just too slow to do with every single Pokemon.

This is how I proceed:
Now I wish the only problem with that procedure was that it takes time to work; but the problem is, it straight-up doesn't work. So far I have done this with three Pokemon: Haxorus, Garchomp and Aggron. I only got Haxorus working. I'll detail the issues in a spoiler:
Note that Haxorus, Garchomp and Aggron were merely samples, my point is not that I want to fix specifically the issues with their models but rather I'd like to be able to prevent (or at least predict) these issues altoghether. What I'd like to achieve is to rest assured that any Pokemon I want to use will work properly in Unity and, if possible, Blender. A collection of already processed, ready to use .blend/.fbx files of all 802 (804?) Pokemon would be inmensely appreciated. But as I haven't found that, I need to get this working.

Also consider that I haven't read all the 130+ pages in this thread, I have only read a few of these pages which popped up when I was googling for a solution to these problems. If any of this has been addressed previously, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.

I actually noticed that the exporter was producing some NaN values for zero length rotations and fixed that. Can you try again with the lastest version of the tool?
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(09-14-2017, 11:42 PM)Queen Fiona Wrote:
(09-14-2017, 10:55 PM)Supurreme Wrote: This might be a really stupid question but is there any way to convert animations to MMD`s vmd format? I'd love to get some pokemon animations in there

While I do agree with this, it's probably more complicated than you might anticipate. I've been working with MMD recently, and to make sure the animations work with standard MMD models, you'd have to make sure they correspond to the standard MMD bones, and make sure you're using Pokemon models with said bones. If you're dealing with Pokemon specifically rather than human characters, it's probably going to be a lot more complicated.

I'm not sure how viable it is to convert the animations directly to a model without standard MMD bones - it wouldn't be cross-compatible, but it might still be useful if it's possible.

EDIT: I found a download for some converted Z-Move poses from the game to models that lack the standard MMD bones, with a comment implying converting these animations isn't too difficult. Maybe this will help?

Yeah....most people don`t convert the models and keep the standard bone names so I guess in the end they`d be pretty useless even if i did manage to convert them over. Just thought I`d ask...thank`s for getting back to me tho!

Another question I had was regarding the map models. Does anyone know where I can find those? I found the battle backgrounds, so that`s a start
Espurrs are cool O - O
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(09-15-2017, 03:48 AM)Supurreme Wrote:
(09-14-2017, 11:42 PM)Queen Fiona Wrote:
(09-14-2017, 10:55 PM)Supurreme Wrote: This might be a really stupid question but is there any way to convert animations to MMD`s vmd format? I'd love to get some pokemon animations in there

While I do agree with this, it's probably more complicated than you might anticipate. I've been working with MMD recently, and to make sure the animations work with standard MMD models, you'd have to make sure they correspond to the standard MMD bones, and make sure you're using Pokemon models with said bones. If you're dealing with Pokemon specifically rather than human characters, it's probably going to be a lot more complicated.

I'm not sure how viable it is to convert the animations directly to a model without standard MMD bones - it wouldn't be cross-compatible, but it might still be useful if it's possible.

EDIT: I found a download for some converted Z-Move poses from the game to models that lack the standard MMD bones, with a comment implying converting these animations isn't too difficult. Maybe this will help?

Yeah....most people don`t convert the models and keep the standard bone names so I guess in the end they`d be pretty useless even if i did manage to convert them over. Just thought I`d ask...thank`s for getting back to me tho!

Another question I had was regarding the map models. Does anyone know where I can find those? I found the battle backgrounds, so that`s a start

The map models for Sun and Moon are located in a/0/8/2 and a/0/8/6. However, SPICA currently can't load a vast majority of them and Ohana can't export them to DAE for some reason (so there isn't any way to get the vertex colors).
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(09-15-2017, 12:47 PM)Lady Ariel Wrote: The map models for Sun and Moon are located in a/0/8/2 and a/0/8/6. However, SPICA currently can't load a vast majority of them and Ohana can't export them to DAE for some reason (so there isn't any way to get the vertex colors).

I keep hearing about a/0/8/2 and a/0/8/6 for the maps, but how would one find/access those folders? Surprise

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(09-14-2017, 11:55 PM)gdkchan Wrote:
(09-14-2017, 05:08 AM)KPlaceholder Wrote: Hi all,

I want to use the Pokémon models in Unity. However I had some issues with them and I believe figuring out how to solve them is simply out of my reach. I signed up on this forum with the sole purpose of asking for help with this.

Besides these issues, I'd also like to share the way I process the models in order to use them in Unity to receive recomendations on how I can optimize it, because I feel it's highly inefficient. My fan-project is going to need a huge lot of Pokemon models and this process is just too slow to do with every single Pokemon.

This is how I proceed:
Now I wish the only problem with that procedure was that it takes time to work; but the problem is, it straight-up doesn't work. So far I have done this with three Pokemon: Haxorus, Garchomp and Aggron. I only got Haxorus working. I'll detail the issues in a spoiler:
Note that Haxorus, Garchomp and Aggron were merely samples, my point is not that I want to fix specifically the issues with their models but rather I'd like to be able to prevent (or at least predict) these issues altoghether. What I'd like to achieve is to rest assured that any Pokemon I want to use will work properly in Unity and, if possible, Blender. A collection of already processed, ready to use .blend/.fbx files of all 802 (804?) Pokemon would be inmensely appreciated. But as I haven't found that, I need to get this working.

Also consider that I haven't read all the 130+ pages in this thread, I have only read a few of these pages which popped up when I was googling for a solution to these problems. If any of this has been addressed previously, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.

I actually noticed that the exporter was producing some NaN values for zero length rotations and fixed that. Can you try again with the lastest version of the tool?
I tried to re-import Garchomp and Aggron after downloading the latest version of Spica. Aggron is now working perfectly! Unfortunately, Garchomp wasn't that lucky, as it's still as broken as before.

I suspect that's actually a problem with Blender, otherwise I don't think Unity would be able to get the bones working either. Would anybody with Blender please try to save a Garchomp model in .blend format and see if its animations are working correctly to see if it's just me?
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(09-15-2017, 03:45 PM)beethead Wrote:
(09-15-2017, 12:47 PM)Lady Ariel Wrote: The map models for Sun and Moon are located in a/0/8/2 and a/0/8/6. However, SPICA currently can't load a vast majority of them and Ohana can't export them to DAE for some reason (so there isn't any way to get the vertex colors).

I keep hearing about a/0/8/2 and a/0/8/6 for the maps, but how would one find/access those folders? Surprise

I am not quite sure what you are asking. Are you asking how to access all the files inside the games or how to open those specific files? Since those are two completely separate processes.
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Now that I've finished unpacking every map, Here's some stuff, Have fun!

The latest version of SPICA can open the raw maps & textures, use this if you want to submit, as Ohana3ds ruins the alpha channel of textures.

https://mega.nz/fm/cwQ0QaRL

For the maps some of them are named, some aren't, It depended on if I remembered what it was or found the textures for, ignore any typos as I usually went through this stuff late at night.
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Hey can anybody please help me with Garchomp, I gave up trying to find a solution
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(09-22-2017, 07:21 PM)Hallow Wrote: Here's some stuff,
https://mega.nz/fm/cwQ0QaRL

Is the link correct? I got redirected to a login page. That doesn't usually happen.
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Greetings to all.

Before I begin, I would like to say that I read all 131 pages, but I haven't received an answer to the following questions:

1. How to use SPICA?
I downloaded the lastest automatic build for Windows from https://github.com/gdkchan/SPICA, which contains OpenTK.dll, OpenTK.GLControl.dll, SPICA.dll, SPICA.Rendering.dll and SPICA.WinForms.exe files. However, when I try to open any file, I get an error "Unsupported file format!". Can someone explain step by step how to use it properly?

2. SPICA supports models, textures and animations from Pokken Tournament game?
I downloaded Pokken Tournament [APKE01].7z (3Gb) archive and used Pokken ripping tools pack to import models and textures in 3ds Max, but not animations.

3. Where I can get ROM of Pokken Tournamet game?
I would be grateful for the download link, because I think that Pokken Tournament [APKE01].7z (3Gb) archive is not ROM of Pokken Tournamet game.

PS: Sorry for my english, this is not my native language. And thanks for your help.
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