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#46
(07-17-2011, 08:38 PM)RétroX Wrote:
(07-17-2011, 08:34 PM)Alpha Six Wrote:
(07-17-2011, 08:31 PM)RétroX Wrote: You seem to be taking the approach of "let me handle this because I am a woman," which is quite sexist on its own.
No, it's not "sexist," it's "being smart and knowledgeable."

That's like saying a black person talking about how bad black oppression is is "racist."

Okay, that was probably a pretty shitty argument.


Regardless, gender should not matter, at all.
No, it shouldn't!

But it does, because that's the world we live in. Just like how race shouldn't matter-- but it does.


This is just a general thing, not directed at anybody specific:

It's ignorant to say that discrimination doesn't exist just because it doesn't happen as much as it did in the 1900s-- it is still very prevalent, whether we actively realize it or not.
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#47
(07-17-2011, 08:36 PM)Devicho Wrote:
(07-17-2011, 08:34 PM)Dark Castle Wrote:
(07-17-2011, 08:28 PM)lord bestfriendgeny Wrote: wow holy fucking shit "sexism isn't a big deal because it's a lot better than it was before"

i didn't actually think that this would be said at all but welp
tsr_star_poster.txt

Yes.I.did. Women have just as many rights as men, and I for one am sick of acting like the Female population is abused by the system.
We're a lot more equal than we were way back when but that's not to say some things still aren't stacked against women.

And that same thing can be said back. You think I want to have to sign up for the military and possibly be put in draft one day? No, I'm terrified of the notion they can call my number and ship me off possibly. Thats just one thing.
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#48
While I agree with you, there really isn't a reason to snap at Devicho. She's been fairly collected.
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#49
SHUT UP. ALL OF YOU. All the past two days have been is ARGUMENTS OVER SEXISM and frankly it's getting really really really old. Especially when it spirals into other topics. Please, for the love of GOD, stop your ceaseless bickering.

I'd love to keep this thread open if you'd all just stop arguing over nothing, but seriously, ughhh. tSR isn't a place where we get into this kind of stuff-- we're all bros, we don't let things get to us. Just stop, please
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#50
hey, i'm stepping in right now. just to say a few things and i know i kind of gave up "The Kojjiro" username and what that means for the forum but i just wanted to take some time out to say a couple of words and make a classically kojjiro post


Despite the fact that it's more or less the whole community that was rallying against you guys earlier, why are you singling out Gillian?
There's absolutely NO FUCKING POINT. You're being pricks for the sake of being a pricks

I'm an American, do you understand what that means? It means it gives me the responsibility and the duty to fuck up your shit beyond belief, sometimes with muskets.
I am not using muskets this time; I'm using my word (words((wordiest))
The Manly Gaze thread is a torrential rain of assholes that have no clue how to accept someone else opinion (David, Retrox, Koopaul. I will use names because I don't give two shits)
Ultimately you guys are all in the wrong, ether or not you want to believe it and whether or not you have friends supporting you
It doesn't exactly help your case either, when you were being rallied against because of sexism and then you start singling out a female user in threads and in your own little private chat.

You guys are now fucking railing against a few specific members for some ridiculous concept of 'oppression' (The Man Is Keeping Us Down, Man) and your whole "TSR is a serious forum!" Thing but
You were given a challenge, that, kind of related to the whole situation. The situation that you created for yourselves. Because you were completely unable to concede to another viewpoint when you could obviously deduce that it wasn't putting you in a favorable position from the start.

What are you deaf? Are you fucking retarded? You're a goddamn neckbeard.
A bunch of dudes that have never experienced sexism declaring sexism is over. Great. You Are The Saviors Of The Waking World(.mp3)
now, i'm going to adress a point here

"Oh my god! People are saying mean things to us over the internet! This is worse then condoning misogyny and sexism!"
I don't agree that Grooveman was being entirely rational but at the end of the day, They very easily could have reneged, apologized and probably gotten out of it.
Nobody has pretty much learned anything from what happened today, and until further notice I'm

going to do something ok
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#51
(07-17-2011, 08:41 PM)Alpha Six Wrote: It's ignorant to say that discrimination doesn't exist just because it doesn't happen as much as it did in the 1900s-- it is still very prevalent, whether we actively realize it or not.

Was going to not bother, but because you quoted me - I never said that discrimination didn't exist. I was simply stating that, to combat gender discrimination, your gender should not matter. I don't care if you're male or female, but your stance on gender discrimination should be the same. And you should be able to fight it just as well.

To me, it seemed like she wanted to handle it as a 1-on-1 grudge between her (the female race) and Koopaul (the sexists). Then, she lumped me and several others on the side of "The Sexists" and that is why we fought back.

Friendly fire often doesn't win the battle.
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#52
I already covered how patriarchy is damaging to men too

but people cheerfully ignored that because it didn't fit the MAN HATIN' BULLDYKE persona you tacked onto me.
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#53
(07-17-2011, 08:47 PM)RétroX Wrote:
(07-17-2011, 08:41 PM)Alpha Six Wrote: It's ignorant to say that discrimination doesn't exist just because it doesn't happen as much as it did in the 1900s-- it is still very prevalent, whether we actively realize it or not.

Was going to not bother, but because you quoted me - I never said that discrimination didn't exist. I was simply stating that, to combat gender discrimination, your gender should not matter. I don't care if you're male or female, but your stance on gender discrimination should be the same. And you should be able to fight it just as well.
That's why I said "it's not directed at anybody specific. I wasn't calling you out, it was a general non-sequitur Shy
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#54
Also why, if not sexism, am I being singled out when Algony and I reacted in almost the exact same way
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#55
Gillian never really directly accused you of doing anything though! (except being Really Really Dumb! which if it helps, I will accuse you of for the rest of your life)
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#56
Never said Sexism was over, just said we've come a long way and it's time to stop acting like we haven't. This didn't even start off as over sexism, I thought they banned him for defending the bible; SOMETHING SENGIR BELIEVED IN. Only right after making this did I find out it was over the Male Gaze thread which I still call horseshit on. But Dex, you might want to close this, I'm not going to drop off one bit, and we don't need that.

TO DEVICHO: I'm sorry for snapping at you, I'm just really emotional right now and kinda unstable.

EDIT: But yeah Dex if you could close this, we can still be bro's right? :C
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#57
If I was a mod, then I would lock this thread and put the whole issue to rest, warn/temp-ban anyone willing to bring the issue back up.

Can we do that?
#58
So what you're saying is that you came in guns blazing without the facts and that's personally my fault.
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#59
skeleton thats fine if you want to make this post but can you like, not imply that people in the chat we're in are all douchebags who have a problem with tachikoma

and more importantly, don't single out caruso after we already spent an hour reconciling the problem
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Please?
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