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Toad, Toadette, and Gender
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(11-18-2014, 12:31 AM)Crappy Blue Luigi Wrote:
(11-18-2014, 12:18 AM)Kriven Wrote: Now kindly continue slinging insults at me because I don't agree with one guy's statement about toads.

drop the strawman, kriven. you'd be less infuriating to argue with if you could refrain from simplifying your opposition to make your side look better. your previous posts gave off the vibe of someone who's resistant to the change of what is an extremely minor detail, considering it doesn't interfere with gameplay or even story elements, and not someone with the personal perspective of approaching and assessing works without regard to the author's intentions and opinions.

ignoring the subject matter and the discussion of its relevance or lack thereof, i'd like to stress that there's nothing wrong with restating your position in an argument, but it's not cool to follow that up with a fallacy because you don't like the other party's accusations. just make the correction and continue the discussion, unless you're specifically looking for a way to get out of the conversation on a higher footing.

But it's cool to use "heteronormative" in an obviously derogatory way, spit about a person being in denial, and straight up say: "Hey, I don't care what you have to say about this"?

If it's not cool for me to call out character judgements and personal attacks, that's too bad for all you cool kids. And telling me it's a "fallacy" that myself as a person was being put under the knife in that post is a straight up lie.

I'd be less "infuriating" to argue with if people would argue with the material, and not with "Well, he must be like this."

I don't even get this whole "in denial" thing. I'm trying to understand how this could be reconciled with given canon. Moreso, I made specific references to gender and not biological sex, because there isn't anything in the game that even mentions how a toad can reproduce. Saying they're beings without a biological sex, that can make sense (although in the same interview they go on to state that the toads aren't mushrooms, which kind of dashes a reproduction based on spores... I think. Magic spores?), but to say that characters whose identites and even names are based in gender don't have a gender is strange at best.

And really, if it's "an extremely minor detail" why are people getting angry that I questioned the validity of the statement? Clearly it's not "extremely minor" to a whole bunch of folks.
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Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-17-2014, 10:45 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Koopaul - 11-17-2014, 10:55 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-17-2014, 11:00 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Omega - 11-17-2014, 11:02 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-17-2014, 11:06 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kosheh - 11-17-2014, 11:09 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by TomGuycott - 11-17-2014, 11:11 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-17-2014, 11:14 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-17-2014, 11:16 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-17-2014, 11:18 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-17-2014, 11:18 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-17-2014, 11:20 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-17-2014, 11:29 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kosheh - 11-17-2014, 11:35 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Tellis - 11-17-2014, 11:43 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-17-2014, 11:50 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Tellis - 11-17-2014, 11:57 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-18-2014, 12:13 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-17-2014, 11:50 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-17-2014, 11:58 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 12:14 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 12:18 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 12:52 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 12:23 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-18-2014, 12:43 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Jermungandr - 11-18-2014, 12:53 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Marth - 11-18-2014, 12:59 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Vipershark - 11-18-2014, 01:03 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Jermungandr - 11-18-2014, 01:06 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Vipershark - 11-18-2014, 01:09 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 01:10 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 01:12 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Vipershark - 11-18-2014, 01:13 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 01:13 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Marth - 11-18-2014, 01:17 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-18-2014, 01:21 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Marth - 11-18-2014, 01:25 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 01:25 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Marth - 11-18-2014, 01:28 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 01:29 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 01:35 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Marth - 11-18-2014, 01:46 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 01:46 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 01:48 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Marth - 11-18-2014, 01:49 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 01:56 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-18-2014, 01:51 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Marth - 11-18-2014, 01:52 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 01:53 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 01:57 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 01:59 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 02:09 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 02:14 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Koopaul - 11-18-2014, 02:21 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-18-2014, 02:22 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 02:25 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 02:28 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 02:31 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Koopaul - 11-18-2014, 02:31 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-18-2014, 02:32 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 02:41 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-18-2014, 02:46 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-18-2014, 02:52 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 02:53 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by BullockDS - 11-18-2014, 03:34 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-18-2014, 02:54 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Sengir - 11-18-2014, 02:55 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-18-2014, 03:06 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-18-2014, 03:07 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by MrYoshbert - 11-18-2014, 07:39 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-18-2014, 12:34 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by eureka - 11-18-2014, 02:50 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by eureka - 11-18-2014, 03:57 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by NICKtendo DS - 11-18-2014, 04:11 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by eureka - 11-18-2014, 04:25 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Shade - 11-18-2014, 04:44 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-18-2014, 06:04 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by [robo9] - 11-18-2014, 06:10 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Pik - 11-18-2014, 04:35 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by eureka - 11-18-2014, 06:09 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by MoneyMan - 11-18-2014, 11:41 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-18-2014, 11:59 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-19-2014, 12:04 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Iceman404 - 11-19-2014, 09:48 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by MrYoshbert - 11-19-2014, 10:04 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by DioShiba - 11-19-2014, 07:44 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Maxpphire - 11-22-2014, 07:04 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kosheh - 11-22-2014, 10:41 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Koopaul - 11-23-2014, 04:57 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by NICKtendo DS - 11-23-2014, 06:03 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kosheh - 11-23-2014, 08:02 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-23-2014, 07:54 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by E-Man - 11-23-2014, 08:13 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Koopaul - 11-23-2014, 11:27 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Kriven - 11-24-2014, 01:23 AM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by recme - 11-24-2014, 06:17 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by [robo9] - 11-25-2014, 07:53 PM
RE: Toad, Toadette, and Gender - by Jermungandr - 11-26-2014, 09:34 PM

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