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Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels
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(03-18-2015, 12:59 AM)Sketchasaurus Wrote: I mean, for all intents and purposes, Shadewings are dragons because that's the thing with which they are most identifiable. They may not be considered such in your universe's lore, but the critique isn't invalidated because it's "technically not a dragon" But I digress.

I imagine that Silversea is suggesting looking at anatomical reference to aid in drawing wings, and I definitely agree. The condition that I would suggest for using reference would be this: don't use other people's art as a reference, instead look at photographs and scientific diagrams as your main source, this way you can interpret and design based off of a real foundation instead of relying on second-hand information. Also, if they're supposed to be more cat-like, definitely study up on cat skeletal anatomy, musculature, and locomotion; it'll only help you in the long run. c:

I take a few issues with this.

One, shadewings are not dragons just because you find it easy to identify them with. Just because something is easy to identify with something else does not actually define it as that. It is my species, I designed it, and I am telling you guys they are not dragons. You even said yourself that dragons don't have a defined base, but shadewings do. Saying something is one thing just because it's easier to identify it like that is not only incorrect, it's sometimes offensive and downright lazy. I'm shocked to see such an attitude coming from longstanding members of this site where laziness is frowned upon. You're choosing to ignore given facts because you'd rather say "dragon". And why is it even easier? Why is "dragon" so much easier to say than "shadewing"?

Two, I never said the critique wasn't valid just because they are not dragons. I accepted the advice and thanked the post both verbally and with the thank button, so I'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm not taking the advice.

Three, I've stated multiple times that they're not dragons, and now I have a second person trying to tell me that they are. Honestly, that feels very disrespectful to me, and I've just recently gone through another really bad experience with people disregarding things that I've said repeatedly. I don't know how I can possibly be more clear on this. I've even said it several times in this post alone. It's disrespectful that you're trying to change the definition of something that you didn't make up, and I'll be honest here, with the both of you trying to say they are dragons, it feels like you're ganging up on me.

Shadewings are not "for all intents and purposes" dragons, and don't try to tell me they are. You didn't make them. I did.



Now if we can just get that out of the way, let's get back to talking sprites.

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I tried putting the propatagium onto the wing, and bent the wing back a bit, but I can undo that if it still looks weird to you. I made it lighter gray to show that there's no scales on top like the rest of the wing, so more light is passing through it. I know it looks flat; I'm working on that still, and I also need to fix the shading around the wing's limb. I'm thinking of removing the AA along the edge to see if that helps it look thinner, too.
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Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 07-07-2014, 09:40 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 02-21-2015, 08:10 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 02-21-2015, 08:31 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-02-2015, 03:03 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Level 1 - 03-03-2015, 12:18 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-03-2015, 05:57 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-05-2015, 05:11 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-07-2015, 07:06 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-08-2015, 07:50 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-09-2015, 03:59 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-15-2015, 08:41 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-15-2015, 05:30 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 03-16-2015, 07:07 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-17-2015, 08:34 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 03-17-2015, 09:20 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-17-2015, 12:18 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Sketchasaurus - 03-18-2015, 12:59 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-18-2015, 10:34 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Sketchasaurus - 03-18-2015, 12:12 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-18-2015, 03:31 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 03-18-2015, 04:19 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Sketchasaurus - 03-18-2015, 05:08 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-18-2015, 05:26 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kosheh - 03-18-2015, 05:50 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Sketchasaurus - 03-18-2015, 05:53 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-19-2015, 08:53 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Sketchasaurus - 03-19-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Gors - 03-19-2015, 02:32 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 03-20-2015, 12:08 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-20-2015, 04:02 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-23-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 03-26-2015, 12:22 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-26-2015, 04:37 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 03-26-2015, 07:02 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-29-2015, 11:04 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-31-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 04-06-2015, 08:12 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by TheShyGuy - 04-06-2015, 12:57 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 04-07-2015, 02:13 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by ~Axis~ - 04-07-2015, 02:19 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 04-07-2015, 04:11 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 04-12-2015, 06:45 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Rederik_Wood - 04-21-2015, 11:56 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 04-22-2015, 08:44 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Rederik_Wood - 04-22-2015, 09:44 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 04-23-2015, 08:32 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Rederik_Wood - 04-24-2015, 09:25 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 05-11-2015, 08:51 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 05-13-2015, 04:54 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by kidicarus29 - 05-13-2015, 05:30 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 05-14-2015, 03:52 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by kidicarus29 - 05-14-2015, 09:34 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by TheShyGuy - 05-14-2015, 06:26 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by E-Man - 05-15-2015, 06:06 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 05-19-2015, 08:07 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 07-15-2015, 08:19 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Gors - 07-16-2015, 07:25 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 07-24-2015, 08:53 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by MotorRoach - 07-24-2015, 09:38 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 07-26-2015, 04:14 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Neslug - 07-26-2015, 05:40 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Gors - 07-27-2015, 07:23 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 07-27-2015, 08:51 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Gors - 07-27-2015, 01:38 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Filler - 07-27-2015, 04:47 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 07-27-2015, 11:06 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by The KKM - 08-03-2015, 08:10 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-23-2016, 06:25 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Hiynastrike - 03-24-2016, 10:23 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-25-2016, 10:46 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 03-25-2016, 01:56 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 06-26-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 07-03-2016, 10:07 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Jaharl - 07-03-2016, 10:15 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 07-04-2016, 08:35 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Jaharl - 07-04-2016, 11:40 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Gors - 07-05-2016, 07:40 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 08-24-2016, 03:33 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 01-17-2017, 06:16 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 01-17-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 01-19-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Silversea - 01-19-2017, 07:24 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 10-01-2017, 10:10 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 10-17-2017, 05:47 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Solid_Spy - 10-19-2017, 10:09 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 11-06-2017, 09:55 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 12-24-2017, 11:32 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 01-08-2018, 03:32 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 01-20-2018, 07:03 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 02-01-2018, 09:04 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Shade - 02-01-2018, 12:36 PM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Gors - 02-08-2018, 06:03 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Aquarius - 03-12-2018, 12:50 AM
RE: Kelvin Shadewing's Pixels - by Kelvin - 04-10-2018, 10:09 AM

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