The Male Gaze

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This topic started out about whether or not its wrong to sexualize women in the media. All other sexist issues do not comply.

As far as I'm concerned this is entertainment, we want to see things that entertain us. And while it may be insulting to women, I do not feel this directly affects our views on women as a whole.

Yes there ARE still problems out there, but I don't feel this the biggest issue.

I screamed at my laptop when I read this. As aforesaid, Male Gaze exists BECAUSE of sexism. Because of things like privilege and objectification in general society, Male Gaze gets a pass in media in the first place.

What's more, media is INCREDIBLY REALLY VERY important in altering how we view society. The relatability of media depends on reaching our sensibilities of what's normal. And pretty much all producers of media are putting "What they think" into their work. All media contains messages from its creators. We just covered how the director's opinions on women were included into Bayonetta. In high school you covered Dickens, or Shakespeare, and learned how they put social commentary into their work - relatable to the consumers of the period. What messages the media tells us is very important, whether we choose to take them on board or not.

i don't look at jerry seinfeld (in the show) and think "yeah man, i wish i was him." i think wow, this guy is ridiculous (which is how it's usually played up)

if you can point out specific instances where the sole reason we're supposed to like a character in anything is specifically that they sleep with lots of women and don't give a fuck, then maybe you're right, but generally i've found that most, if not all of the time the sympathy comes from elsewhere (or is non-existant)

Duke Nukem Forever.
God of War.
Persona 3/4 (Technically)
Every frat movie made after American Pie
A very large percentage of modern gangsta rap
CASA-FUCKING-NOVA actually let's look at the entries listed in the Casanova entry on TV Tropes there are quite a few:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Casanova