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The Male Gaze
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If the shot focuses on the woman's body and she's not even the main subject of the scene then it's obviously bad, but not mainly for reasons of objectifying women or anything (it's because it breaks basic cinematography principles and leaves the viewer confused).

Quote:A woman cannot be a strong character while being the object of a man's desire.

Wait what? There are plenty of good female characters in movies that also happen to look pretty, or have a relationship with another character in the movie.

Quote:Is it wrong for someone to be an object of our entertainment?

Every person acting in a movie is an object of our entertainment. These aren't real people, these are idealized fictional characters whose personalities can be described at any given time in a sentence, and they're played by idealized actors (people which look much more attractive than the ones we normally see in everyday life). Same goes for videogames, where we play as idealized characters (though in the best case there would be no need for a disconnect between us and our "character" ingame) and interact with other characters. The reason for this is that both videogames and movies are forms of escapism and people would naturally rather escape and identify with more attractive people than less attractive people, hence why movie/videogame heroes are usually more attractive than movie/videogame villains. None of this is "wrong."

Quote:Does that one shot throw away all the respect we have of her?

Why would a shot of a character being naked throw away my respect for the character? That isn't an action, it's a state.

Quote:However this goes on to the idea that this objectifies women. That women are merely objects of man's desire. On top of that it forces women to see themselves through the eyes of men, and become what they see. What's more it reassures men of their sexual power and at the same moment deny any sexuality of women other than the male construction.

Uhh this kind of seems like a stretch to me. So because Michael Bay gave us some overly long shots of Megan Fox on a sleek looking car in Transformers 2 women watching the movie see themselves as Megan Fox and are denied of their sexuality because Megan Fox only looks pretty to men [with bad taste]?
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Messages In This Thread
The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-16-2011, 05:20 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Cshad - 07-16-2011, 05:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-16-2011, 05:54 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-16-2011, 05:55 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-16-2011, 06:01 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-16-2011, 06:04 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by PrettyNier - 07-16-2011, 06:29 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 06:34 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 06:38 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-16-2011, 06:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 06:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-16-2011, 06:54 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 07:01 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 07:07 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 07:08 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-16-2011, 07:10 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 07:13 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 07:16 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by PrettyNier - 07-16-2011, 07:31 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 07:32 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 07:33 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 07:40 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 08:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 08:49 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 09:01 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 09:10 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-16-2011, 09:12 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 09:15 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-16-2011, 09:15 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 09:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 09:51 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by a babyass man - 07-16-2011, 09:45 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by triptych - 07-17-2011, 04:47 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 09:54 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 09:58 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 09:59 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:02 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:05 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:10 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:17 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:27 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:36 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:45 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-16-2011, 10:21 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 04:10 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 10:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 03:46 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 04:00 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 04:19 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 10:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-16-2011, 10:52 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 11:21 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by tsr moderation staff - 07-16-2011, 11:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 11:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-17-2011, 12:36 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by tsr moderation staff - 07-16-2011, 10:55 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 11:00 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-16-2011, 11:27 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-16-2011, 11:47 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-16-2011, 11:57 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by tsr moderation staff - 07-17-2011, 12:46 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 12:51 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 01:00 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-17-2011, 12:53 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 01:07 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-17-2011, 05:46 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 06:28 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-17-2011, 06:48 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 01:43 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 01:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by StarSock64 - 07-17-2011, 02:46 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 03:52 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 03:56 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 04:06 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 04:13 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Lemonray - 07-17-2011, 04:09 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:17 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 04:21 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 04:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:27 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 04:25 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 04:27 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 04:28 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 04:28 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:31 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 04:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 04:31 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 04:42 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-17-2011, 05:11 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 05:12 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-17-2011, 06:02 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 06:11 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-17-2011, 06:28 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 06:29 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-17-2011, 06:31 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-17-2011, 06:47 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 06:49 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by RétroX - 07-17-2011, 06:49 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:00 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 07:06 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:07 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 07:08 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:17 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 07:20 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by SKELTON S. SKELETON - 07-17-2011, 07:20 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:22 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 07:22 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:22 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 07:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:24 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 07:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-17-2011, 07:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:34 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:37 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by RétroX - 07-17-2011, 07:44 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:52 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 08:17 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 08:20 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Cobalt Blue - 07-18-2011, 03:05 AM

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