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A Place for new Spriters
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(12-04-2010, 10:20 PM)Diogalesu Wrote: There should be a beginners board that allows edits to an extent, but I don't think it'll do any good unless the mindset of this community changes.

I personally feel like something like this might be in order;

I'm not super active on here, but I do browse around quite frequently and notice that, as it is, there's a very strident mentality that, although inspired by a good cause, isn't in any way at all a way I'd want to deal with people personally. (and I don't)

Do I think that edits, frankensteins and recolours are in any way beneficial? The only cases in which I've seen them as beneficial were the ones where a person fully capable of producing something entirely on his own was doing some zany experiment; like fixing the flaws on commercial sprites, or giving them much better palettes.

In my opinion 95% of the people who just start -won't- learn to get better by working on stuff like edits and frankensteins.

But truth to be told? I have strong doubts about how efficient the "lets curse them out and lock their threads immediately"-method of trying to let them learn the hard way is either.

When it comes to replying to/dealing with "noobs" aggressively, I feel that you're more prone to flush out personalities than quality, do I believe that being harsh/aggressive can work? Yes, for certain people.

To summarise my final suggestion/pov;

1. I have my doubts about just sending them to another community, would a community that is very open to edits/recolours really be a good place to learn?

2. I think that the often aggressive mentality I've seen around often can be effective in helping some people, but is just as effective at chasing people away, people genuinly interested in getting better will listen even when you're not aggressive, people who aren't? why care about those?

3. I think that having some method that'll keep people around long enough to actually realise what TSR is about might be much more effective in getting them to learn to sprite better, if a person leaves after posting their first thread due to how hostile the reaction was, I highly doubt we managed to make that person decide to get better, I feel that it just means they'll try and do exactly what the first post suggests, they'll find a community that does accept them for what they do.


I don't really care what happens one way or another, but I think that TSR as a community can afford being more open to the less gifted, as far as I'm aware we've alienated a lot of high-quality sites already, so I don't see why we'd want to do that to the lower-tier people as well.

Peace out.
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Messages In This Thread
A Place for new Spriters - by Koopaul - 12-04-2010, 03:18 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Chutzpar - 12-04-2010, 08:55 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Nindo - 12-04-2010, 11:16 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Gors - 12-04-2010, 11:17 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-04-2010, 01:43 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Koopaul - 12-04-2010, 05:26 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-04-2010, 09:26 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Koopaul - 12-04-2010, 10:03 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by DioShiba - 12-04-2010, 10:20 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-05-2010, 07:06 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Chutzpar - 12-05-2010, 07:46 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Kosheh - 12-05-2010, 10:23 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Vivvav - 12-05-2010, 10:37 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Proton - 12-05-2010, 11:53 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Chutzpar - 12-05-2010, 12:37 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-05-2010, 08:53 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by DioShiba - 12-06-2010, 08:28 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Alpha Six - 12-06-2010, 08:48 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-06-2010, 09:45 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Alpha Six - 12-06-2010, 10:05 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Koopaul - 12-06-2010, 08:56 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Alpha Six - 12-06-2010, 10:21 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-07-2010, 06:07 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Chutzpar - 12-07-2010, 09:25 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-08-2010, 12:30 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Iceman404 - 12-08-2010, 07:11 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-08-2010, 07:51 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by LeleleleMAXIMUM - 12-08-2010, 12:39 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-08-2010, 04:08 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-08-2010, 06:16 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Sketchasaurus - 12-08-2010, 02:47 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Proton - 12-08-2010, 04:11 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Rosencrantz - 12-09-2010, 05:38 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-08-2010, 03:09 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Maxpphire - 12-08-2010, 05:20 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Sketchasaurus - 12-08-2010, 06:04 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Proton - 12-08-2010, 06:14 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Iceman404 - 12-09-2010, 07:15 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Proton - 12-11-2010, 06:33 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-12-2010, 01:00 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Proton - 12-12-2010, 01:41 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-13-2010, 07:05 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Koopaul - 12-13-2010, 11:15 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by LeleleleMAXIMUM - 12-13-2010, 01:04 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Elk - 12-14-2010, 02:26 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-14-2010, 04:23 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Whispy - 12-14-2010, 06:23 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Neoriceisgood - 12-14-2010, 10:35 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Koopaul - 12-14-2010, 12:01 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Proton - 12-14-2010, 04:43 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Koopaul - 12-14-2010, 06:04 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Proton - 12-14-2010, 06:46 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by ThePortalGuru - 12-14-2010, 09:24 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Koopaul - 12-14-2010, 11:58 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-16-2010, 08:42 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by LeleleleMAXIMUM - 12-15-2010, 07:28 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Iceman404 - 12-20-2010, 01:51 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Elk - 12-20-2010, 07:58 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by StarSock64 - 12-20-2010, 05:14 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Vipershark - 12-20-2010, 06:11 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Gors - 12-21-2010, 06:32 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Maxpphire - 12-21-2010, 06:39 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-23-2010, 12:37 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Chutzpar - 12-23-2010, 12:27 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by LeleleleMAXIMUM - 12-29-2010, 11:07 AM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Rosencrantz - 12-29-2010, 04:02 PM
RE: A Place for new Spriters - by Cobalt Blue - 12-30-2010, 06:05 PM

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