07-07-2014, 01:08 PM
Hey everyone. I figured now would be a good time to clear the air regarding my part in yesterday's incident. I had planned on actually cleaning up the mess I made after I woke up (I stayed up as late as I could but I needed to get to bed for work) but Vipershark beat me to it and I am definitely grateful for the assistance.
So, let me start by apologizing for the way I handled things yesterday. I'll be the first to admit that I was never a fan of the lounge as it seemed like a dumping ground for things that were, at best, questionable and, at worst, outright against the rules for the rest of the forum. In large part, I still believe that's true but it was made clear to me yesterday how at least a few of the threads there brought a lot of enjoyment to the community and I really should have been more open-minded about them instead of just sticking to my overly literal definition of spam.
StarSock, in particular, I owe an apology to as well. You were genuinely trying to hold an open discussion with me regarding your views and the reasoning you and others felt that threads like the funny image thread should be allowed. I thought I was doing the same but, in hindsight, I was ignoring your most important (and, admittedly, completely valid) point about the thread providing value to the community being a fair counter-point to its otherwise questionable nature. I was so focused on the fact that it was "spam" and didn't belong in general that I neglected the fact that my definition could be wrong or that there was nowhere else it could possibly go. So, my sincere apologies for not taking you seriously yesterday. I was far too closed-minded and a bit too frustrated to carry out an honest discussion at the time.
As far as arguing in public with staff, something I'm not particularly proud of given that I'm not a fan of public call-outs like that in general, I think I was just mad at the blatant disrespect I was shown. Regardless of whether my decision to close the thread was wrong, I felt that, if he disagreed, he should have brought it up with me directly, in the staff forum, or in the discussion that was already going on. Just reversing my decision and publicly calling me out for being wrong didn't sit well with me and that definitely contributed to my stubbornness regarding that thread.
That being said though, I really shouldn't have shot back at him in public either. It was a heat of the moment, knee-jerk reaction but I completely invalidated my own point in a single post so to Gors, I'm sorry for my part in our butting heads. And to everyone else, I'm sorry for dragging a private conversation into the public and then letting that affect my judgement.
I think we've reached a good compromise with the way things work now - it allows for fun threads without flooding the forum with garbage and while I wish the road to get to this point wasn't so rocky, I'm glad we're here. So hopefully, we can put this all behind us and cary on having a good time again.
So, let me start by apologizing for the way I handled things yesterday. I'll be the first to admit that I was never a fan of the lounge as it seemed like a dumping ground for things that were, at best, questionable and, at worst, outright against the rules for the rest of the forum. In large part, I still believe that's true but it was made clear to me yesterday how at least a few of the threads there brought a lot of enjoyment to the community and I really should have been more open-minded about them instead of just sticking to my overly literal definition of spam.
StarSock, in particular, I owe an apology to as well. You were genuinely trying to hold an open discussion with me regarding your views and the reasoning you and others felt that threads like the funny image thread should be allowed. I thought I was doing the same but, in hindsight, I was ignoring your most important (and, admittedly, completely valid) point about the thread providing value to the community being a fair counter-point to its otherwise questionable nature. I was so focused on the fact that it was "spam" and didn't belong in general that I neglected the fact that my definition could be wrong or that there was nowhere else it could possibly go. So, my sincere apologies for not taking you seriously yesterday. I was far too closed-minded and a bit too frustrated to carry out an honest discussion at the time.
As far as arguing in public with staff, something I'm not particularly proud of given that I'm not a fan of public call-outs like that in general, I think I was just mad at the blatant disrespect I was shown. Regardless of whether my decision to close the thread was wrong, I felt that, if he disagreed, he should have brought it up with me directly, in the staff forum, or in the discussion that was already going on. Just reversing my decision and publicly calling me out for being wrong didn't sit well with me and that definitely contributed to my stubbornness regarding that thread.
That being said though, I really shouldn't have shot back at him in public either. It was a heat of the moment, knee-jerk reaction but I completely invalidated my own point in a single post so to Gors, I'm sorry for my part in our butting heads. And to everyone else, I'm sorry for dragging a private conversation into the public and then letting that affect my judgement.
I think we've reached a good compromise with the way things work now - it allows for fun threads without flooding the forum with garbage and while I wish the road to get to this point wasn't so rocky, I'm glad we're here. So hopefully, we can put this all behind us and cary on having a good time again.