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Help ripping NES sprites (I know, I'm sorry)
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Hey everyone out there. Been a fan and user of spriters-resource for a long time now, and finally decided to join the fold, as my interests in sprite ripping have intensified recently.

Asking for help on ripping NES sprites feels like I'm committing some cardinal sin here, as there do not appear to be any readily available tutorials for the system, yet there are oodles of sheets for it, implying that ripping for the system is so easy, who would need a tutorial?

Well, that's me. I'm a Wizards & Warriors freak, amongst other games, but particularly this series lately. I got inspired, for whatever reason, to rip all of Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors II, after beating it for the first time just the other day. A bit of reading here and some searching there, and now I have both YY-CHR and Tile Molester, and I feel like I have almost all the knowledge needed to proceed. My problem is: I can't for the life of me seem to load a palette on either program, which would help me immensely in figuring out what pieces are what.

I have determined that the easiest way ON PAPER, is to load a save state from the emulator and it will just load the palette as well. Sounds easy enough, but when I go to load a save state, none of the formats accepted seem to be any I can use. I tried getting NESticle to work, it didn't. I tried getting the original FCEUltra to work, it didn't. I use FCEUX, but it appears to use a completely different format for save states that neither program will accept.

Frankly, I feel like I'm going insane looking for what should be a really simple solution. I have finally caved and I am asking, nay, BEGGING for someone's help.

EDIT: It appears that this is getting some views but no replies Sad just as a bit of context, I've read the "omg how i rip sprites" page on Random Hoo Haas, by Ragey(?). That page has given me what I think are most or all of the tools I need to get started, but a more thorough explanation of getting palettes or even some links to working versions of NESticle or FCEUltra are all I need, I think. I've put quite a bit of time into figuring this out over numerous days and I think I'm just missing something small that someone here probably knows. If you're reading this and have any experience ripping NES sprites with these tools, I would really appreciate some advice. Pretty please with a cherry on top!
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For FCEUX (not sure if true for all variations), in the menubar: Config -> Enable -> Make sure Compress Savestates is off (no checkmark)

Make a new savestate and try loading that one in YY-CHR.
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~Phineas and Ferb, "One Good Scare Ought to Do It!" (2008)
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(11-24-2016, 06:04 AM)Deathbringer Wrote: For FCEUX (not sure if true for all variations), in the menubar: Config -> Enable -> Make sure Compress Savestates is off (no checkmark)

Make a new savestate and try loading that one in YY-CHR.

Thanks for the reply, Deathbringer. Looks like that option was enabled, so I disabled it, but the file still doesn't even appear in YY-CHR when I go to load a state save from that directory. It seems to only take .st, .ss, .fr, .rs, and .zs, none of which are FCEUX's format, which is .fc0 apparently.

I'm gonna do what Ragey recommends on his page and use GGD to try and get the palette piece by piece that way. Seems this isn't a very important subject to anyone but me.
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Oh, you meant for palettes? For that, if the version of FCEUX you are using has a debug options with a PPU Viewer, you can copy down the Palette codes and open up an NES palette in YY-CHR and just make it by hand.
Doofenshmirtz: This is a little bit awkward but have you seen my escape jet keys? (Perry nods) What, you have? Well that's great! So where are they? (Perry looks away) You won't tell me? Is this because you don't speak or are you just being a jerk?
~Phineas and Ferb, "One Good Scare Ought to Do It!" (2008)
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(11-27-2016, 01:45 PM)Deathbringer Wrote: Oh, you meant for palettes? For that, if the version of FCEUX you are using has a debug options with a PPU Viewer, you can copy down the Palette codes and open up an NES palette in YY-CHR and just make it by hand.

Holy crap that's awesome. Yes, mine has the PPU viewer. You are awesome, thank you so much.
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