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VG Resource Wiki - Dazz - 08-04-2014

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Today we would like to introduce our new wiki, designed to help users get introduced to the art of game asset ripping and creation. We want to make a wiki dedicated specifically to helping users get started with all of the resource sites we operate, and to help them become more knowledgeable in every aspect of what we do.

As we as a staff only have limited knowledge and aren't able to dedicate our efforts to every member one-on-one, we feel a wiki is the best way of providing our collective knowledge to the masses.

The wiki is currently pretty bare, so we'd appreciate any all efforts made to help shape it.

In order to make changes to the wiki, you must have a minimum of 20 posts, and been a member of the site for a month.

The accounts used for the wiki are those also used by the forum, and other resource sites. However, please be aware that we recently changed our logging in procedure, and as such it is advisable if you're having problems with logging in that you clear your cookies, and log in again. There are likely a number of minor issues with the old cookies and your ability to operate the new sections of the site if you don't.

If you have any problems, feel free to post here.

With the introduction of the wiki comes a new piece of forum code. You can now easily embed a wiki page into the forum for users to read without having to be redirected.
Example:

Code:
[wiki]What_Makes_A_Good_Submission[/wiki]

Wiki Page - What_Makes_A_Good_Submission - [edit]


We hope that you'll enjoy contributing to the wiki, and we look forward to seeing where we can take this new system with the community.

Any suggestions and thoughts are more than welcome!

All the best,
Dazz & Petie

P.S. - We're keeping the wiki unlinked from the main sites for a small period of time while content is actually placed into it. We figure we should let you guys help fill it before we make it fully public.


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Mystie - 08-04-2014

Very cool! I should add some of my knowledge to it today.

(BTW, on the Consoles navbox, Virtual Boy is misspelled as "Vitual".)


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Dazz - 08-04-2014

I'll fix that up now.

Also, Mystie, you're listing game-specific file formats under a console - this isn't the correct way of going about this. You should create a page specifically for that game when it comes to these sorts of files. See about creating a page for Wind Waker and Pikmin, but writing the name in the search box in the top right (The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker (GameCube) & Pikmin (GameCube)) and then select to create the page.


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Mystie - 08-04-2014

Oh, okay. Thanks.


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Petie - 08-04-2014

So I had to update the Wiki software to support a couple of our plugins and doing so seems to have broken the style. I have to run but I'll be back later to try to fix it. In the mean time, please pardon the appearance!


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Dazz - 08-05-2014

Appearance has been fixed, and content is really starting to flow! I'm excited at seeing all of these additions being made!


RE: VG Resource Wiki - E-Man - 08-05-2014

I'm not sure if this has been covered before or not, but are you guys planning on creating profiles of the more notable members of this web site for the wiki? If you're not, that's fine, especially since I think this snippet from the wiki indirectly answers my own question.

The VG Resource Wiki Wrote:Your Own Character

Make sure that your submission is not a made up character. This only really applies to custom submissions, but it can also be if you've made a game and feel your content should be on the sites. It isn't your place to make that judgement, and in cases you like this, you'd be best off asking us first. We only accept content for media ripped from commercially released, or notably reputable released games. In terms of custom submissions, we only accept content surrounding things that appear within a game, or gaming related media (Such as Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons).



RE: VG Resource Wiki - Dazz - 08-05-2014

That quote is from a page talking about submitting to the resources. However, there are also no plans to allow pages discussing members, as this information isn't of relevant to the sites or how to create or rip content. If a member is a vital aspect of the history of the sites, then information may be written about them in the history portion of the wiki.


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Magma Dragoon - 08-05-2014

How should I go for creating pages for the ripping tutorials?


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Dazz - 08-05-2014

If you're writing a tutorial on a specific game, create a page for that game.
If it's a general tutorial on a program, you can create that too. If it's a program dedicated exclusively for a variety of common files only found one or two systems, put those on the console pages themselves.

Things can always be moved and shuffled later, so don't be too scared!


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Kosheh - 08-07-2014

If I could put in my two cents and piggyback on the wiki - it's a great idea and truly a genius must have thought up of introducing a wiki to complement the site Wink

However, a few things. You guys are probably looking into them, but if you're unsure with where to proceed in the future with the wiki, some suggestions below:

1)
(08-05-2014, 08:28 AM)Dazz Wrote: That quote is from a page talking about submitting to the resources. However, there are also no plans to allow pages discussing members, as this information isn't of relevant to the sites or how to create or rip content. If a member is a vital aspect of the history of the sites, then information may be written about them in the history portion of the wiki.

In my opinion I think the wiki should generally stick to ripping techniques, archive URLs to tools and resources, and perhaps documentation on the storage of data on said platforms. Echoing what Dazz said, wiki pages chronicling users on VGR aren't necessary, and in a sense present a risk in the integrity and validity of the information on the wiki. It'll promote so much vandalism.

2) Is there any way the wiki BBCode can be "squished" horizontally, like have it width:80% (so it's relative width)?
I don't know why, but it taking up the whole post body looks kinda...weird.

3) I'd change the minimum wiki editing requirement to 20 + 20 posts - do not explicitly state the actual number anywhere on the site. Yes, it's a lot more but it also means that by the time you reach that number you're a vested member of the community. It's impossible to rush to that post count without actually substantially contributing to discussions on the forum. It's also totally doable in two weeks of posting.
Keep in mind that editing the wiki isn't a "perk" quite like requests are - a request requires zero knowledge of spriting expertise. Adding information to the wiki requires actual exposure to sprite ripping or pixel art.

Nice job integrating the MyBB API into it though - users vandalising the Wiki can easily be banned through the forum and in turn should prohibit those users from editing.

Actually, is it even possible to have a moderator-approval-required setting for posts within the MediaWiki CMS? I know it's possible in MyBB, but...
I don't know I'm just curious.


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RE: VG Resource Wiki - Dazz - 08-08-2014

1) We're leaving the articles on people to their User pages. They don't need to be about the user if the user doesn't want it to be. It can just be their sort of public notepad.
2) I don't think it should be squished. It'd look super weird if we did that, and a waste of space on the left and right.
3) I don't think we should really bother adding extra user groups for the sake of 20 extra posts, since they also need to be a member for a month. And any edits can easily be reversed, and abuse of the wiki can result in real forum bans. You're assuming users are going to look to rush posts so they can help our wiki - I don't see this as a bad thing.

4) There will be no governing of edits or new pages. That gets rid of the point of it being a wiki. Users can moderate it, in a sense, and when we need to step in to ban someone, we can. We have a great community and they don't need to be treated like they should be policed for contributing their knowledge.


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Kosheh - 08-08-2014

(08-08-2014, 01:05 PM)Dazz Wrote: You're assuming users are going to look to rush posts so they can help our wiki - I don't see this as a bad thing.

Actually, I was kind of assuming the opposite - users might try to rush posts in order to vandalize it, hence the suggestion in the first place for a larger deterrence. ):


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Petie - 08-08-2014

(08-08-2014, 03:29 PM)Kosheh Wrote: Actually, I was kind of assuming the opposite - users might try to rush posts in order to vandalize it, hence the suggestion in the first place for a larger deterrence. ):

I get your concern but wiki vandalism is easy to clean up and those who partake in it will receive full site bans. I don't see it being a frequent occurrence so I'm not terribly worried.


RE: VG Resource Wiki - Dazz - 08-08-2014

"Oh man, I can't wait to vandalize that wiki in a month. That's going to be super fun."
And then it gets cleaned up in about 5 minutes, if not quicker.

Nobody is that bored as to really dedicate that much effort into playing with some entries on a wiki.