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GBA Model ripping? - Quirby64 - 07-06-2014
I've wanted to have a go at model ripping for a while, and the main handheld I've been looking to start on in particular is the GBA. Is there a way to do it?
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Radzdahound - 07-06-2014
I'm no expert, so I may be wrong, but from my quick Google research it seems the GBA doesn't use 3D models.
Instead, games with 3-Dimensional graphics just use 2D sprite renders of models.Here's my source if you're interested: http://www.zapotlanejo.info/Nintendopapercraftforum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1424
Sooo.... sorry?
*Tries to gracefully end awkward post*EDIT: Although, you could still just rip the sprites if that's all you want.
RE: GBA Model ripping? - TheNathanNS - 07-06-2014
Not possible I'm afraid.
IIRC, The GBA doesn't use any 3D models in any game, only sprites.
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Quirby64 - 07-06-2014
Wait, really? I mean, somewhere I saw that the GBA had some sort of 3D model engine. Maybe it was something put into the carts, but I found some games that have 3D models...
NFS Games :
![[Image: nfs1_by_quirbstheepic-d7ph8bf.png]](/image.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Ffc02.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2014%2F187%2F2%2F8%2Fnfs1_by_quirbstheepic-d7ph8bf.png&hash=1b8b98bb1215d8f41d341ca908c194c9)
![[Image: nfs2_by_quirbstheepic-d7ph8bl.png]](/image.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Ffc08.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2014%2F187%2F1%2Fc%2Fnfs2_by_quirbstheepic-d7ph8bl.png&hash=88ca3b59f8b8b391f63f91aefda66495)
Driver 2 & 3 :
![[Image: d3_by_quirbstheepic-d7ph8bt.png]](/image.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Ffc04.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2014%2F187%2F1%2F8%2Fd3_by_quirbstheepic-d7ph8bt.png&hash=a258b39a42b541be38d9a42266357d81)
Super Monkey Ball Jr. :
![[Image: smb1_by_quirbstheepic-d7ph8c0.png]](/image.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Ffc04.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2014%2F187%2Fe%2F2%2Fsmb1_by_quirbstheepic-d7ph8c0.png&hash=24d09f8f697bfb64742c5a94387743ef)
Again, maybe the developers put in some software in so the GBA could handle polygons, or the GBA, being a mini SNES as it was called, could render them too?
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Radzdahound - 07-06-2014
From what I'm aware, the developers were just really amazing at making their games look 3D. Take a look at this sprite sheet from Super Monkey Ball Jr. It has 3D renders of Aiai facing all directions. It appears to be 3D, but it's not. It's just a 2D sprite. So what appears to be a model of Aiai in-game is just a llooottt of pre-rendered sprites!
Not sure about the actual level, though. That looks pretty 3-Dimensional. But it's probably just a fancy 3D effect like the one used in the original Super Mario Kart. Again, I'm not sure. I'm new to the whole GBA-ripping thing. It just appears it's all a very well done illusion. :/
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Quirby64 - 07-06-2014
Welp, I think you guys are right. Quoted from Wikipedia, the GBA has a "Graphics Custom 2D core". I think that it must be some pretty good illusions the developers did.
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Deathbringer - 07-06-2014
It might be that trick they used in Sonic Battle.
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Quirby64 - 07-06-2014
WAIT!
According to a quote from a site called Thunderbolt Games :
"The GBA was similar to the SNES technologically, so for certain genres representing 3D was a bit tricky. However, unlike the SNES (at least without any added chips), it is capable of rendering texture-mapped, polygonal 3D graphics. It was a 32-bit console after all; and produced far better looking 3D graphics than the supposedly 64-bit Atari Jaguar or the Sega 32X, both intended to introduce 3D gaming on home consoles."
I think I may have found an answer.
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Dazz - 07-08-2014
Agreed, I'm sure I've seen 3D models be used in places. Certain games definitely use 3D models, like:
Doom
![[Image: GBA_Doom.png]](/image.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20080218011210%2Fdoom%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fb6%2FGBA_Doom.png&hash=f9cb3afaa2d558040164b9a742574765)
Tony Hawk’s Downhill Jam
![[Image: 2563.png]](/image.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emuparadise.me%2FGBA%2Fsnaps%2F2563.png&hash=76cbbd66813428ffd29a197c91d41101)
Kill.Switch
![[Image: Kill%20Switch-2.png]](/image.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vizzed.com%2Fvideogames%2Fgba%2Fscreenshot%2FKill%2520Switch-2.png&hash=277c4475f87be9c69c7169c71d3ef1e0)
Otherwise they just simply wouldn't work as games.
You'll be hard pressed to find a means of ripping these though, due to obscurity.
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Quirby64 - 08-12-2014
I have come back to this subject a bit ago, but still no luck.
However, what if I tried looking at the source code for the games, if there is actually a tool for that?
RE: GBA Model ripping? - Rystar - 08-12-2014
(08-12-2014, 02:40 PM)Quirby64 Wrote: However, what if I tried looking at the source code for the games, if there is actually a tool for that?
There's a reason it's called source code, Quirby...
RE: GBA Model ripping? - BlastoiseTheVGRipper - 02-14-2022
Sorry for the late 8-9 year bump, but there is a another game I am aware that uses 3D models.
SSX 3 for the GBA.
Ripping these models will be hard unless you have a GBA ripping tool that lets you do that stuff.