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Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
Dunno why, but tSR has only MM6-8 sprites, which are badly rendered 3d models. So I publish some oldschool pixelart from earlier game. No portraits for now.

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Monsters Attacking
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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
Can I ask you to please stop making new topics, and instead post these into a singular submission topic in the main submission board like everybody else?

Additionally, you really should try to think about how you're arranging these sheets. "Monsters" and "Monsters attacking" as an example is poor organisation; If somebody wants all the sprites for the slime monster, they have to now go to two different sheets...

Also, try to concentrate on one game perhaps, and completely rip that and organise it better before ripping a new game... If there's one thing I dislike on tSR it's games with only 1 sheet in them of something totally random.

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Oh look at how she listens... She says nothing of what she thinks.
She just goes stumbling through her memories staring out onto Grey Street.
But she thinks, "Hey... How did I come to this? I dreamed myself a million times around the world but I can't get out of this place."
There's an emptiness inside her and she'd do anything to fill it in.
And though its red blood bleeding from her now, it felt like cold blue ice in her heart.
When all the colors mix together to grey, and it breaks her heart...

How she wishes it was different... She prays to God almost every night.
And though she swears He doesn't listen, there's a hope in her that he just might.
She says "I pray! Oh, but they fall on deaf ears... Am I supposed to take it on myself to get out of this place?"
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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
(08-04-2012 10:23 AM)Dazz Wrote:  Can I ask you to please stop making new topics, and instead post these into a singular submission topic in the main submission board like everybody else?
Which one? Why wont you close these forum sections then?

(08-04-2012 10:23 AM)Dazz Wrote:  Additionally, you really should try to think about how you're arranging these sheets. "Monsters" and "Monsters attacking" as an example is poor organisation; If somebody wants all the sprites for the slime monster, they have to now go to two different sheets...
You are welcome to do a better arrangement. I'm not a big expert at this.

(08-04-2012 10:23 AM)Dazz Wrote:  Also, try to concentrate on one game perhaps, and completely rip that and organise it better before ripping a new game... If there's one thing I dislike on tSR it's games with only 1 sheet in them of something totally random.
That is a complete rip, beside portraits and tiles. If you like, you can rip them yourself. It will require just a little script in your favorite programming language.

For example, http://spriters-resource.com/pc_computer...index.html includes only monsters, while game has much more content than that.
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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
Gensym, these subforums are for infrequent submissions, or for large selections of rips from singular games. One sheet doesn't mean one topic.
If you're submitting a large variety, you might as well make your own topic. Complain, whine, it's advice that I suggest you take. Saves everybody time and effort.

I'm not going to rearrange your submission - we get about 50 submissions a day. I don't have time to do that for each sheet, this is a hobby. If I wanted to rip these myself, I would have done, but I'm ripping things that I want to. Because again, it's a hobby. It's fun.

I'm not saying this isn't complete, but some of your other submissions are. That game does only include monsters, but that's also well organised and has individual sheets as it should; There's 59 sheets in there.
If you don't want to do the arrangement, then it'd take you close to no time to just throw the rest into an organised mess as they currently are.
But I frankly am reluctant to upload content which is so poorly arranged. It makes the site look rushed and sloppy.

edit: For the record, these are fine. But the 2 monsters sheets is pointless...

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She just goes stumbling through her memories staring out onto Grey Street.
But she thinks, "Hey... How did I come to this? I dreamed myself a million times around the world but I can't get out of this place."
There's an emptiness inside her and she'd do anything to fill it in.
And though its red blood bleeding from her now, it felt like cold blue ice in her heart.
When all the colors mix together to grey, and it breaks her heart...

How she wishes it was different... She prays to God almost every night.
And though she swears He doesn't listen, there's a hope in her that he just might.
She says "I pray! Oh, but they fall on deaf ears... Am I supposed to take it on myself to get out of this place?"
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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
(08-04-2012 01:56 PM)Dazz Wrote:  Gensym, these subforums are for infrequent submissions, or for large selections of rips from singular games. One sheet doesn't mean one topic.
How large? How "infrequent"?

(08-04-2012 01:56 PM)Dazz Wrote:  If you're submitting a large variety, you might as well make your own topic. Complain, whine, it's advice that I suggest you take. Saves everybody time and effort.
How large? How varying? How saves?

(08-04-2012 01:56 PM)Dazz Wrote:  I'm not going to rearrange your submission - we get about 50 submissions a day. I don't have time to do that for each sheet, this is a hobby. If I wanted to rip these myself, I would have done, but I'm ripping things that I want to. Because again, it's a hobby. It's fun.
So why do you care? If some fan dislikes this formatting, he can rearrange and reupload it.

(08-04-2012 01:56 PM)Dazz Wrote:  I'm not saying this isn't complete, but some of your other submissions are.
I just havent finished uploading the rest of sprites.

(08-04-2012 01:56 PM)Dazz Wrote:  That game does only include monsters, but that's also well organised and has individual sheets as it should; There's 59 sheets in there.
Where are the sheets? I see only rar archives with separate frames inside. Is http://spriters-resource.com/community/s...?tid=20578 complete enough? You should already start burning people for incomplete uploadings or forgetting to put a mandatory tag or placing a wrong number items on a sheet and arranging them against your taste.

(08-04-2012 01:56 PM)Dazz Wrote:  If you don't want to do the arrangement, then it'd take you close to no time to just throw the rest into an organised mess as they currently are.
But I frankly am reluctant to upload content which is so poorly arranged. It makes the site look rushed and sloppy.

edit: For the record, these are fine. But the 2 monsters sheets is pointless...
whatever.
08-04-2012 03:14 PM
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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
Sheesh, calm down there. Just listen to suggestions and see whether you can conform to them. When you make a lot of submissions, a single topic is much more convenient as all your submissions are together and there's not many small threads cluttering the place while the organisation remains.

"Infrequent" submissions would be like mine; I put up some rips every other few months and I usually just drop a few from a single game.

Good formatting makes a good impression and an organized sheet is easier to use as single elements should be easy to find. Especially when you have many different things on a sheet and someone just needs a single thing, it is more comfortable. If you wonder why we care, TSR tries to serve contents in a user-friendly way as that obviously is what users like.


A last thing, it would be much more convenient for site uploaders if you would directly link the 100% images instead of the downscaled versions - saves one roundtrip per sheet. Icons would be really neat, too!
It's also alright when you just put the links there instead of embedding images, especially when they are rather huge. Genki ^_^

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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
(08-04-2012 09:56 AM)gensym Wrote:  Dunno why, but tSR has only MM6-8 sprites, which are badly rendered 3d models. So I publish some oldschool pixelart from earlier game. No portraits for now.
Hello gensym, it1s because the engine of MM1-5 games are totally different from MM6-8, and I only found out how to extract from the later ones. Good thing you're ripping from the others, they have breat graphics!

(08-04-2012 10:48 AM)gensym Wrote:  For example, http://spriters-resource.com/pc_computer...index.html includes only monsters, while game has much more content than that.
Yeah, I had the other stuff extracted, but I left them behind... started to rip something else. Now I uninstaled the games and these submissions (from me) won't come soon.
And yes, they were submitted as compacted archives, I prefered that way due the variable size of the images (different from MM7 and MM8, which I made sheets for every monster). I wasn't in the mood to invest hours to make sheet, so I decided to submit that way.
This isn't a job, so we just do things that give us fun. That's why we (submitters) should organize our submissions to make the adms lifes easier, otherwise they won't be abble to upload them all.

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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
(08-05-2012 12:41 AM)Cyrus Annihilator Wrote:  Hello gensym, it1s because the engine of MM1-5 games are totally different from MM6-8, and I only found out how to extract from the later ones. Good thing you're ripping from the others, they have breat graphics!
It is not about the engine. For example, http://spriters-resource.com/pc_computer...index.html was released earlier and uses similar engine, but has much better sprites.

(08-04-2012 10:48 AM)gensym Wrote:  Yeah, I had the other stuff extracted, but I left them behind... started to rip something else. Now I uninstaled the games and these submissions (from me) won't come soon.
Sorry, never meant to criticize your submissions, just wanted to point that most games on tSR have incomplete rips.

(08-04-2012 10:48 AM)gensym Wrote:  And yes, they were submitted as compacted archives, I prefered that way due the variable size of the images (different from MM7 and MM8, which I made sheets for every monster). I wasn't in the mood to invest hours to make sheet, so I decided to submit that way.
This isn't a job, so we just do things that give us fun. That's why we (submitters) should organize our submissions to make the adms lifes easier, otherwise they won't be abble to upload them all.
So you can just upload raw dumps here? And I am being attacked for uploading monster sheets as they were in game!
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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
I mentioned the engine to justify why I didn't rip from MM1-5 (although I wanted to see it ripped).

Quote:So you can just upload raw dumps here? And I am being attacked for uploading monster sheets as they were in game!
Yes, you can. Just organized them, separe them (to avoid files with huge files) and post here. See Insanius' submissions, they're compacted files, but fulfill their function: share the sprites with the world.

We all want to share our dear sprites on the worldwide web, to help others make indie games and animated gifs, to honor the memory of the games we like, to be famous, whatever...
You have great skills, skills that can help the site to fulfill its function. For this, you (as all the submitters) have to work togheter with the adms.

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Quote:Yes, you can. Just organized them, separe them (to avoid files with huge files) and post here. See Insanius' submissions, they're compacted files, but fulfill their function: share the sprites with the world.
I wont post here anything anymore. As Dazz (is he the owner of this site?) pointed my rips are "spam" and I'm "a little shit" and "harmful".

Quote:We all want to share our dear sprites on the worldwide web, to help others make indie games and animated gifs, to honor the memory of the games we like, to be famous, whatever...
Do you know any good image hosting, with aim on sprites? Something with tags (i.e. isometric/sideview/topdown sprite) and where anyone can freely upload anything?

Quote:You have great skills, skills that can help the site to fulfill its function. For this, you (as all the submitters) have to work togheter with the adms.
Thank you. But I just wanted to share some sheets directly on forums, but is seems this isnt possible here.
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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
(08-06-2012 04:51 PM)gensym Wrote:  
Quote:Yes, you can. Just organized them, separe them (to avoid files with huge files) and post here. See Insanius' submissions, they're compacted files, but fulfill their function: share the sprites with the world.
I wont post here anything anymore. As Dazz (is he the owner of this site?) pointed my rips are "spam" and I'm "a little shit" and "harmful".
what he means is that you post all these sheets when you could just make a gensym's rips on the submissions forum. And yes Dazz is the owner

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Quote:You have great skills, skills that can help the site to fulfill its function. For this, you (as all the submitters) have to work togheter with the adms.
Thank you. But I just wanted to share some sheets directly on forums, but is seems this isnt possible here.

you are a great ripper, all the sheets you get are from harder to rip high quality games but we are trying to tell you simpler ways to post sprites on the spriters resource, but you wont listen and continue to make all these scattered around post it makes it easier on the staff to upload sheets that are all together and on one post and as a result Dazz has to tell you post after post. Just please listen
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Don't bother hiyna. He's not posting anymore sheets after Dazz's request to stop. I wish these sheets could have been fixed up just for the sake of having them on the site but it's a lost cause unfortunately so I wouldn't waste your time posting about it anymore.

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The guy got everything wrong. This is a shame.

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oh, might and magic rips are gone...Cry

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RE: Might & Magic 4: Clouds of Xeen
Mh, the first three sheets just need icons since they look fine to me.

The two monster sheets can be merged together, shouldn't be too much work.

Edit: Can someone give me the direct links for the two monster sheets?

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