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Santetos · (05-02-2012)

(05-01-2012 06:46 AM)BlueBlur97 Wrote: Alright Santetos, you're in. Make sure you're here regularly though.

What about you Virt the Fox? Are you ready?

Alright.

Santetos · 05-07-2012 02:22 AM

I have a question. What models do you want me to animate?

BlueBlur97 · 05-07-2012 07:18 AM

The Sonic model and Omochao model.

Santetos · 05-08-2012 11:30 AM

I have the Sonic model, but I need Omochao model.

Oh, and what are the frames.

BlueBlur97 · 05-08-2012 12:47 PM

By "frames", do you mean how you will animate them? Or do you mean the frame rate? I would need you to animate them in the Generations style. I'll upload a .fbx format of the model. Sonic will have to be animated very precisely like his generations style (you know, the normal fall and the speed fall and especially the run and boost.). You'll have to be here often. Check this thread whenever you're on tSR community. This is going to be fun!

P.S: I'm going to need some one who can make stages in the Blitz 3D format. Thegameexplorer! Can you be of assistance? Anyone who thinks they can be of assistance, fell free to tell me! This will be a fun project Big Grin

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thegameexplorer · (05-08-2012)

Actually, you can convert the original hkx files from Sonic Generations (Animations and other physic stuff like collisions) to a file format that 3ds max can understand. I'm looking into that Tongue

BlueBlur97 · 05-08-2012 04:12 PM

The problem is that my computer crashed like a month ago, and I have to download it all over again. If you don't mind. Look into it and help me with this idea of mine.

Santetos · 05-09-2012 08:11 PM

The frame rate.

thegameexplorer · 05-09-2012 09:28 PM

20

And you'll need this:

Code:

Frame counts for Sonic character:

000-223; Idle

225-249; Jog

250-274; Run

275-300; Jump

301-309; Stomp

310-320; Land

321-340; Fall

341-364; Jump Dash

365-390; Charge

391-415; Walk

416-430; Up from Spring

431-460; Trick

461-480; Forward by Ring Dash

481-510; Forward from DashRamp

511-550; Hit

551-604; LandHit

605-632; Boost

633-656; Fast Jog

657-683; Long Fall

684-704; Roll

705-725; Slide

726-763; Start

764-793; Air Roll

794-817; Hop Before Jump

818-830; Grind

831-850; Dive1

851-860; Dive Fast

861-880; Dive Hurt

881-908; Running 2

909-921; Grind Fast

922-942; Skidding

943-961; Drift Left

962-980; Drift Right

(05-09-2012 08:11 PM)Santetos Wrote: The frame rate.

BlueBlur97 · 05-10-2012 05:28 PM

Is this mandatory? Will this apply even if I make the entire source code from scratch?

**Previous** · 05-10-2012 06:59 PM

(05-10-2012 05:28 PM)BlueBlur97 Wrote: Is this mandatory? Will this apply even if I make the entire source code from scratch?

Of course, there is no other way. How could you possibly have a different set of animations with different frame counts and a less slow frame rate? Impossible!

It depends on how similar you want your game to be. But even then, you won't need to follow that guide strictly. Small differences will go unnoticed by everyone.
Besides I don't even think you should have a 1:1 clone. No point in that. However, it TGE could get all that with a rip, it would surely make things easier for you.

Santetos · 05-11-2012 01:07 AM

(05-09-2012 09:28 PM)thegameexplorer Wrote: 20

And you'll need this:

Code:

Frame counts for Sonic character: 000-223; Idle 225-249; Jog 250-274; Run 275-300; Jump 301-309; Stomp 310-320; Land 321-340; Fall 341-364; Jump Dash 365-390; Charge 391-415; Walk 416-430; Up from Spring 431-460; Trick 461-480; Forward by Ring Dash 481-510; Forward from DashRamp 511-550; Hit 551-604; LandHit 605-632; Boost 633-656; Fast Jog 657-683; Long Fall 684-704; Roll 705-725; Slide 726-763; Start 764-793; Air Roll 794-817; Hop Before Jump 818-830; Grind 831-850; Dive1 851-860; Dive Fast 861-880; Dive Hurt 881-908; Running 2 909-921; Grind Fast 922-942; Skidding 943-961; Drift Left 962-980; Drift Right

(05-09-2012 08:11 PM)Santetos Wrote: The frame rate.

Thanks.

Hoeloe · 05-11-2012 07:45 AM

20 FPS seems awkwardly low, especially for a Sonic game. Most games use at least 60...

**Previous** · 05-11-2012 08:00 AM

(05-11-2012 07:45 AM)Hoeloe Wrote: Most games use at least 60...

* Most games use shaky ~30 FPS at maximally 720p because efficient programming would be too expensive and the masses buy cheap productions nontheless.

* Animation FPS != game FPS.
Although it might make things look awkward.
Dynamic tweening might be an option.
Don't ask me, I'm not a model animator and haven't coded 3D stuff (yet).

Hoeloe · 05-11-2012 11:51 AM

The games I've looked into have all used 60 as a base, with the exception of one, that used 120. Programming doesn't need to be especially efficient to run at 60FPS on modern systems.

I know animation FPS != game FPS, but 20 is too low even for animation FPS, really. Especially in a fast-paced game like Sonic. Dynamic tweening would definitely be my suggestion too.