METAL GEAR SOLID ABSOLUTE CHARACTER MODEL PACK

[FRANKASTER]

The only way i think a remake of the classic titles might work is i dunno, using something like the classic mgs1 camera/item system, not put unnesesary gameplay (like twin snakes, that sutff spoiled some parts of the game like shooting everyone on the face using 1st shooting option), and making it a small kind of dlc game... but having box for collecting sounds nice to me. and i really like the real actors codec faces on the originals, really it gives me that 80's early 90's feeling i was pretty pissed off when they removed that sprites, (shinkawa artwork does look alienating in there)

[xxTerminatorxx]

In Twin Snakes all the codecs were MGS1 style, which I would of rathered been MGS2 style.
Anyways, a good remake of those old classic titles would need some MGS4 gameplay, but not like the high-tech codec screen, we don't want it to resemble MGS4 too much. Maybe a MGS3 styled codec for MG and MG2 remakes?

[FRANKASTER]

(04-04-2011 10:18 PM)xxTerminatorxx Wrote:  In Twin Snakes all the codecs were MGS1 style, which I would of rathered been MGS2 style.
Anyways, a good remake of those old classic titles would need some MGS4 gameplay, but not like the high-tech codec screen, we don't want it to resemble MGS4 too much. Maybe a MGS3 styled codec for MG and MG2 remakes?

but here it goes the big shocker, all the scenary, itemplacement, enemy ia will have to ve redone from scratch from game leveldesing to character and story, wich that will convert it into a brand new game, not a remake, but i would ratter want a "polygon update" and i didn't like the gameplay from mgs4, it was pretty, how can i say it, it has modern shooter stuff, but at the same time it didn't felt like a good old mgs, it needed scripted camera (optional you can change modes like mgs3 subsistence) and i don't see the point for a aiming system on a stealth game, that game shuld encorage you to sneak without been detected, not to headshoot everyone, but this game(mgs4, mpw) the overshoulder kind of invites you to shoot people on the face

[valforwing]

it would'nt be good because the theme song for MGS has been taken out due to a copyright that it sounded like a song called Winter Road...which in my opinion dosent sound at all like the MGS theme, but it's not in any games after MGS3...and all the trailors of the original MGS were taken down from the MGS websites aparently.
without the right music and voice acting the game just won't do that well

[FRANKASTER]

(04-05-2011 01:50 AM)valforwing Wrote:  it wouldn't be good because the theme song for MGS has been taken out due to a copyright that it sounded like a song called Winter Road...which in my opinion dosent sound at all like the MGS theme, but it's not in any games after MGS3...and all the trailers of the original MGS were taken down from the MGS websites apparently.
without the right music and voice acting the game just won't do that well

that's why I created this youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/MGSmainthemeBACK page, to have a historical compilation and preservation of the original trailers and music... and i wanted to get the stuff on the best quality possible and it was pretty dam hard to get the promotional dvd's, but i have hope that the main theme will return of snake eater 3ds and here are the prophecies:

1: 2010: castlevania lords of shadow: part of the maintheme was there... i know it does not have the main melody but is something

2: 2010: konami's official mgs page, one video where they prank a worker using the original mgs1 theme... and yes i checked and it was uploaded by kp staff... is not a user movie, and konami has 0 tolerance for tappy

3: 2011 again on Facebook they asked which are the user's favorite version of the main theme and posted a scan of the 1st page of the mgs1 theme partiture

4: Nintendo japan event vintage mgs3 trailer was shown but the video jumpcuts before the main theme appears, so people listened the shit there just like 2009's GDC where they removed the mgs2/3 commercials from the streaming sites.

and on mgs4 soundtrack we don't have a MGS main theme mgs4 version... instead just mgsaga which is kinda ok but no tappy, i got unhappy with it, then we have the MGS peace walker main theme, which is just exclusive but i'am afraid that they can put that particular tune on the old games anytime... but if the mgs3ds has the music unlatered, you might hope that the hd re-releases and a complete version of mgs4 may feature the complete theme.

about the winter road is hard to explain but is actually almost the same song, but it was actually plagiarized by almost everyone, for example the princes lea theme uses some notes, i remember watching a tv movie that used a little part of it too, but what makes the difference is the tempo and the nature of the song, I'll upload a video of my self trying to play both themes on piano for you to see the difference

but who i really want to see in HD is solidus snake and the arsenal tengus.... the game didn't made justice to shinkawa's concept art, but mcfarlane toys did http://www.spawn.com/toys/games/mgs2/sol..._03_dp.jpg

[valforwing]

Oh man that solidas model looks sweeet....
so that was your account? i've seen it before, LOVE it!
oh have u seen this yet? it's fan made but REALLY good.
http://www.mgs-philanthropy.net/
i've heard both songs but while it's very simular...MGS has an entirely differnet feel and emotion to it. it's the kinda song that would inspire me to join the army.
hrm... on that note if u ever get around to ripping models from MGS2 and MGS3 i'd love to see a comparison to raiden and raikov...i think they might have just reused his model face for the game.

[FRANKASTER]

(04-05-2011 05:25 AM)valforwing Wrote:  Oh man that solidas model looks sweeet....
so that was your account? i've seen it before, LOVE it!
oh have u seen this yet? it's fan made but REALLY good.
http://www.mgs-philanthropy.net/
i've heard both songs but while it's very simular...MGS has an entirely differnet feel and emotion to it. it's the kinda song that would inspire me to join the army.
hrm... on that note if u ever get around to ripping models from MGS2 and MGS3 i'd love to see a comparison to raiden and raikov...i think they might have just reused his model face for the game.

I will say this politely:
FORGET ABOUT MGS3 seriously its impossible and tedious beyond sanity!

ok, i'll try mpo+ but i expect nothing more than failure... but for what i can see is almost the same model with some subtitle differences (do not count the uniforms) but maybe the guys from the dolphin emu may get that thing emulate on dx9 and let the rips begin, anyways that game uses a improved peace walker engine. the models from MGS2 I finally found a way to remove all the geometric junk and fix most of the stuff that made me quit many years ago... but i won't be working on it until i finish the mgs1 pack, what i can say about this pack that's different from mgs1 is that it will include models from the tanker, items, big shell itself (almost complete), key interior areas and most of the arsenal gear insides (which for some reason for me is the cooles level in the whole series, so futuristic but factible at the same time)

[Friedslick6]

He's totally right. The only thing we can grab from Metal Gear Solid 3 at the moment is sounds, text, modified textures and extremely low-polygon model captures. It'd be easier to remake the models until something new comes up (and it will if you're patient enough.)

[valforwing]

okay got it, MGS3...impossible to rip...

[FRANKASTER]

(04-05-2011 06:19 AM)Friedslick6 Wrote:  He's totally right. The only thing we can grab from Metal Gear Solid 3 at the moment is sounds, text, modified textures and extremely low-polygon model captures. It'd be easier to remake the models until something new comes up (and it will if you're patient enough.)

and the models are posed without uv's (sometimes a low poly KGB t-posed guy appears but it has missing geometry and broken uv's)

[NakedSnake]

how did u get the tts models in a tpose ?

[FRANKASTER]

(04-05-2011 10:13 PM)NakedSnake Wrote:  how did u get the tts models in a tpose ?

look at early post on this thread please

[xxTerminatorxx]

All we need are textures from MGS3. Models are usless and nobody cares about them..
I have EVA's bikini textures...

[Shadowth117]

(04-06-2011 06:51 PM)xxTerminatorxx Wrote:  All we need are textures from MGS3. Models are usless and nobody cares about them..
I have EVA's bikini textures...

Uh


No, NO ONE here cares about 3d models. And they are so very useless as well since they certainly aren't used for NEARLY EVERY MODERN VIDEO GAME AND MOVIE.

Nope, there's no reason anyone would want those...

[xxTerminatorxx]

I'm using those textures for a texture hack over ZSS. I'm combining both coat-like textures I found on google for her standard look since I don't have them.