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Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - joronjo - 08-31-2015 Hi, i'm new here and I still don't have the hang of the crediting etiquette. What do you do regarding spritesheets that don't give a credit instruction? The one i'm talking about specifically is http://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/pokemonomegarubyalphasapphire/sheet/64167/ RE: Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - Vipershark - 08-31-2015 It's always a good idea to credit the ripper if you use their works, regardless of credit tag and regardless of whether they specifically want credit or not. It's a good rule of thumb to just credit everyone and not have to worry about it. To answer your question though, in the specific instance where there is no credit tag and they don't ask for credit, giving credit probably isn't necessary. Is it good practice to do so and should you do it anyway? Yes. RE: Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - puggsoy - 08-31-2015 If someone hasn't bothered to put a tag, chances are they don't care whether you give credit or not. As Vipershark said though, it's always nice to and doesn't hurt. RE: Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - DarkGrievous7145 - 09-05-2015 (08-31-2015, 11:21 PM)puggsoy Wrote: If someone hasn't bothered to put a tag, chances are they don't care whether you give credit or not. As Vipershark said though, it's always nice to and doesn't hurt. That sounds about right... If I may add to this, what about those where permission is apparently required? To me, it feels only the original developers or artists should have such authority. In fact, if I were the original developer or artist, and I saw someone posted a rip from my game(s) that said "permission required to use..." , umm...yeah...I might be taking some action. Probably not along the lines of sheet take-down or a C&D on ripping, but the permissions mandate would be nullified. Are there any solid guidelines in place about such credit tags? (with the exception of something that the original developers actually uploaded, but that should probably be mentioned in the tag, then, shouldn't it?) Sorry if this is kinda off-topic, but it seems to be similar enough. Can just delete this post if you feel otherwise. RE: Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - puggsoy - 09-05-2015 There aren't any concrete rules about tags, but here are some bullet points off the top of my head:
It might actually be a good idea to make a wiki page about tags. RE: Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - DarkGrievous7145 - 09-07-2015 (09-05-2015, 11:52 PM)puggsoy Wrote: There aren't any concrete rules about tags, but here are some bullet points off the top of my head: yep... still dislike the permission thing for rips. It feels kinda unethical to me when it is the original creators or present copyright holders of the work who should have final veto on the use of them. Custom work is another story, i've even seen some people be quite lax on their usage terms with it...shocks me, really! anyways... even with all the effort one took to rip...really seems a stretch to claim authority over the use for something they didn't actually create... The "only for archive on <x sites>" doesn't bug me, except in cases that site goes down or something... Also, I won't do that as of yet cuz it creates future confusion for me, or someone who finds my rips/customs. There are like three sites I post content to. Some of them may share sprite-rips, among other things with each other... and oh, if one ever changed, or a new one added ...yep... "uh-oh!" the not claiming as own is totally reasonable. I kinda wish credit tags mentioned the original devs/artists...actually but then again, they sometimes can be hard to contact/locate...if even remotely possible Yes, a wiki page could be a good idea. RE: Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - Vipershark - 09-10-2015 I've honestly never understood the existence of the permission thing for any sheets that weren't customs. I can understand rippers wanting credit and I fully support that but they can't realistically disallow someone from using those rips without permission. If you're REHOSTING the sheet without permission that's one thing, but needing permission to use the rips in comics/games/videos seems ridiculous to me. Obviously if the sheet is custom then you should definitely get permission from the person who made those sprites before you use them, but how can someone who merely ripped them and sheeted them tell you not to use them? RE: Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - Petie - 09-10-2015 I agree, for the most part, but to play Devil's advocate, work is still involved in the ripping process. Someone spent their own time and effort to compile that sheet. It's a stretch to make this work but it can be argued that, if someone wants to use a sheet that wouldn't otherwise have existed without someone else's effort, it's not entirely unreasonable to ask them to do so (or otherwise, rip the content yourself). Like I said, it's a stretch since there's nothing to be gained by ripping it a second time but I'm just trying to show an alternate thought process. I think we should come up with a formal answer here though so I'm proposing the following:
RE: Crediting a sprite sheet with no credit "license" - DarkGrievous7145 - 09-10-2015 (09-10-2015, 06:19 AM)Petie Wrote: I agree, for the most part, but to play Devil's advocate, work is still involved in the ripping process. Someone spent their own time and effort to compile that sheet. It's a stretch to make this work but it can be argued that, if someone wants to use a sheet that wouldn't otherwise have existed without someone else's effort, it's not entirely unreasonable to ask them to do so (or otherwise, rip the content yourself). Like I said, it's a stretch since there's nothing to be gained by ripping it a second time but I'm just trying to show an alternate thought process. Seems fair Well, the "ethical dilemma", if any, was non-custom things have permission walls, so yeah... Anyways, thanks for clearing that up! |