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RE: The New tSR Lounge - Kriven - 02-19-2012 09:04 AM

(02-19-2012 05:44 AM)TomGuycott Wrote: Let's be frank, if you believe that dragons like this exist:

Let's be frank, dragons are as imaginary as this:

Beliefs are opinions, and you really can't go ahead and claim there's something "wrong" with an individual for what they believe.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Rλy - 02-19-2012 09:48 AM

(02-19-2012 09:04 AM)Kriven Wrote: Beliefs are opinions, and you really can't go ahead and claim there's something "wrong" with an individual for what they believe.

I get what you're saying.
But, there is a difference between an opinion and an outright fallacy. For example, if I said "Super Metroid is the best game on the Super Nintendo", that would be an acceptable opinion. But, If I declared "I am a velociraptor", that would be wrong without question with any opinions being irrelevant.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Previous - 02-19-2012 09:56 AM

(02-19-2012 09:48 AM)Rλy Wrote: But, If I declared "I am a velociraptor", that would be wrong without question with any opinions being irrelevant.

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dinosaur.

Anyways, unless you can proove that dragons don't exist, there's still the probability that they do. Just like black holes and higgs thingys. You never know until you know.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Koopaul - 02-19-2012 10:09 AM

Yeah that was the whole plot for Miracle on 34th Street.

Anyway I think what's "right or wrong" is something different from what's "true or false" You see, right and wrong are opinions, true and false are facts.

Like morals and ethics, those are opinion based and you can't really be incorrect for having them. Even though I'm often called out on my ethical opinions...

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Previous - 02-19-2012 10:36 AM

(02-19-2012 10:09 AM)Koopaul Wrote: Anyway I think what's "right or wrong" is something different from what's "true or false" You see, right and wrong are opinions, true and false are facts.

Protip: Facts are opinions.
You can never be sure your perception is correct. Ask Sokrates Wink

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Sonikku - 02-19-2012 10:38 AM

(02-19-2012 10:09 AM)Koopaul Wrote: Anyway I think what's "right or wrong" is something different from what's "true or false" You see, right and wrong are opinions, true and false are facts.

the truth is your butt smells like a butt

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Rosencrantz - 02-19-2012 10:55 AM

Absolutes are the worst possible things; just because it seems illogical that something doesn't exist, doesn't mean it can never exist. What if someone perceives the world completely differently than you, and yet you are able to communicate between one another without any problems converting from one perspective to another? It's a weird way of thinking, but the universe is fucked up enough and our brains are wacky enough for something like this to happen; let's say you can perceive dragons, but cannot perceive giraffes. I could describe to you what a giraffe is, and you would be processing this data and reading a description for a dragon. On the flipside, I could describe dragons, something I cannot perceive, and you would see a description for what a giraffe is instead. So giraffes are dragons.

Fuck, I should not be up at 5 in the morning, I think of incredibly stupid shit.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - TreeStar - 02-19-2012 01:19 PM

(02-19-2012 04:32 AM)Kriven Wrote: I was perfectly fine with the joke until you mentioned descending sacks and pretty much decided to stomp all over a bunch of people's beliefs

Yes and of course bashing what other people find "funny" is going to make it better rather than looking like a jackass. Big Grin

(edit2: another fun fact, that innuendo about balls wasn't even a joke to begin with and you brought this comment up, so there's some miscommunication there buddy)

Edit: I don't believe that there is something of an "Actual Dragon" in the literal sense, you made this into a debate when it didn't need to be. Which honestly I don't see why you bothered to do unless you are trolling.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - TomGuycott - 02-19-2012 03:25 PM

(02-19-2012 09:04 AM)Kriven Wrote: Beliefs are opinions, and you really can't go ahead and claim there's something "wrong" with an individual for what they believe.

Now there's a problem with that statement right there, because there have been many dangerous people who have had many questionable beliefs and ended up hurting many, many people.

In this case what I'm saying is that if there's someone going around saying that they see dragons like THAT every day of their lives, they are lying to themselves and who knows just how stable they really are. Now it's not my place to say what's impossible in this universe when the length of my life is so insignificantly small by comparison, but if you insist "I SEE THAT EVERY DAY!" or something outlandish like that, that's unhealthy.

Does that make sense at all?

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Previous - 02-19-2012 03:29 PM

Just because YOU can't see them...
You're jelly is all.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - TreeStar - 02-19-2012 03:53 PM

I love how we argue about anything really.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Axle the Red - 02-19-2012 04:55 PM

TBH I think that it could be possible that, with a world as strange as this one, that there could exist some mysterious species of "dragon" that could "breathe fire" out there we don't know of or some such, however I'm not biased on anything that I think is real or not real like that guy is.

It's okay to believe in something as long as you're... not like that guy and insist that you are right and everyone else is wrong.

...Of course as we know there are people who don't have the same mythological beliefs that are like that anyway.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Altrez - 02-19-2012 04:57 PM

Unless a person is a danger to themselves, or others, I don't care if they believe in invisible dragons.

And neither does my friend, Frederick Von Drakonus.

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Sengir - 02-19-2012 05:37 PM

Gosh this debate just seems to keep dragon on...

RE: The New tSR Lounge - Kriven - 02-19-2012 07:04 PM

(02-19-2012 01:19 PM)DioShiba Wrote: Yes and of course bashing what other people find "funny" is going to make it better rather than looking like a jackass. (edit2: another fun fact, that innuendo about balls wasn't even a joke to begin with and you brought this comment up, so there's some miscommunication there buddy)

...

The miscommunication is on you, since I wasn't even trying to start a debate with the Komodo Comment.
(Yeah, I got that. That was my problem.)